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Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:06 pm to DrSEC
I think the success that Dooley had was overshadowed by the guy in the state right to the west.
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Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:08 pm to plazadweller
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I think the success that Dooley had was overshadowed , by the guy in the state right to the west.
By both Bryant and Dye. Considering Dooley coached from 1964-1988. That's in the midst of Bryant's height and Dye's height.
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Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:10 pm to Trojandawg
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Richt needs to win 8-9 games. Ive heard from a lot though that it is 9 games or he is gone.
Was it the president, AD, or board member? If not.....they are useless. Either way, he will be back because they will win 10 games. However, people who say they are hearing a game number are either full of crap or the people they are hearing from are full of crap.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:20 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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You're an idiot. Fact.
If this was geared toward me, that is funny. My point remains the same. NO ONE knows a number for Coach Richt. I will say, however, that it would have to be really bad or a really big name would have to come open. For the following reasons.
A. The president and board love him. In fact, he is sitting on their laps.
B. Two, he is the best coach in this history of the program and firing him and messing up the hire would be an instant pink slip for the AD if the next hire fails.
C. His impact in the community is stronger than some mad posters on a few message boards. Once again, the board, AD, and president would need a disastrous season AND a big hire.
D. The most important people have made it clear. Integrity and profits mean more than anything else. More than wins (although people forget he has a bunch of those).
Once again, it doesn't matter. They will win 10 games and be a preseason top 5 in 2012.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:21 pm to DrSEC
Coach, is that you?
No too much cursing.
Mr. Adams, is that you?
No too much cursing.
Mr. Adams, is that you?
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:25 pm to DrSEC
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Was it the president, AD, or board member? If not.....they are useless. Either way, he will be back because they will win 10 games. However, people who say they are hearing a game number are either full of crap or the people they are hearing from are full of crap.
The person I got it from is close to the program and usually has very credible info. The 9 win minimum supposedly was set by McGarity himself. But since you appear to know more than anyone else about it believe what you want to.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:36 pm to Trojandawg
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The person I got it from is close to the program and usually has very credible info. The 9 win minimum supposedly was set by McGarity himself. But since you appear to know more than anyone else about it believe what you want to.
You have to see how foolish that sounds. McGarity set a limit......that is going around the rumor circles.....of 9 wins. No offense but that is a bunch of crap. There is no number and if there was, no one on Tigerdroppings would know it.
Yes there are people with credible recruiting and coaching connections. However, I guarantee you there is no one on here that knows a number for Richt to remain.
What if Aaron Murray got hurt? the number is still 9? Here is the facts. There is no number and no one important wants him out.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:39 pm to DrSEC
Which one of these men are your source?
“I think you look at a person’s whole body of work. And I think the whole body of work by Mark Richt the last 10 years is very strong. We have very high expectations at the University of Georgia. We didn’t meet them last year. But I’m pretty confident that we’re going to spring back, that he made the kind of adjustments in staffing that needed to be made.”—Michael Adams
“Our first requirement is to run the program properly. You will get in trouble at Georgia more for failure to do that rather than for having a bad season once a decade. But we do think with our resources, with our recruiting base, with our fan base, it’s not unreasonable to expect us to have a winning football program. And we have for 13 of the 14 years I’ve been here. I fully expect we will for 13 of the next 14.” —Michael Adams
“I remember back when Bear Bryant was coaching, he had a bad year and everybody was saying the game has passed him by. Biggest joke I’ve ever heard. He had a few bad years, but he had a few good years, too. All we need is one more point than Boise State and we’ll be on the road.” —Bob Bishop
“He’s not in my hot seat; he’s still in my lap. I love him. I don’t think you can find a better human being anywhere and he’s a fine football coach. He’s proven that time and time again. But we all know it goes in cycles. He had a bad cycle last year, and he made a lot of changes to improve on that. If you have a real bad season again there’s going to be a lot of turmoil all over the state and on campus and behind the scenes.” —Bob Bishop
“I’m firmly in Mark Richt’s corner. I want him to succeed. Everything is in place for him to succeed and I’m pulling for him to do so. Who wants to go through the turmoil of changing coaches and changing staff?”—Gary Hill
I think we got off to a wonderful start in January, I’ve said many times, how you perform in September and October comes down to what you do in January. You set the tone, you set the expectations, you say this is the way we’re going to run our operation. There’s no question–and I think Mark would acknowledge this and I think the players would acknowledge it—that they’ve gotten off to a good start with nutrition and strength and conditioning.”—Greg McGarity
“I think you look at a person’s whole body of work. And I think the whole body of work by Mark Richt the last 10 years is very strong. We have very high expectations at the University of Georgia. We didn’t meet them last year. But I’m pretty confident that we’re going to spring back, that he made the kind of adjustments in staffing that needed to be made.”—Michael Adams
“Our first requirement is to run the program properly. You will get in trouble at Georgia more for failure to do that rather than for having a bad season once a decade. But we do think with our resources, with our recruiting base, with our fan base, it’s not unreasonable to expect us to have a winning football program. And we have for 13 of the 14 years I’ve been here. I fully expect we will for 13 of the next 14.” —Michael Adams
“I remember back when Bear Bryant was coaching, he had a bad year and everybody was saying the game has passed him by. Biggest joke I’ve ever heard. He had a few bad years, but he had a few good years, too. All we need is one more point than Boise State and we’ll be on the road.” —Bob Bishop
“He’s not in my hot seat; he’s still in my lap. I love him. I don’t think you can find a better human being anywhere and he’s a fine football coach. He’s proven that time and time again. But we all know it goes in cycles. He had a bad cycle last year, and he made a lot of changes to improve on that. If you have a real bad season again there’s going to be a lot of turmoil all over the state and on campus and behind the scenes.” —Bob Bishop
“I’m firmly in Mark Richt’s corner. I want him to succeed. Everything is in place for him to succeed and I’m pulling for him to do so. Who wants to go through the turmoil of changing coaches and changing staff?”—Gary Hill
I think we got off to a wonderful start in January, I’ve said many times, how you perform in September and October comes down to what you do in January. You set the tone, you set the expectations, you say this is the way we’re going to run our operation. There’s no question–and I think Mark would acknowledge this and I think the players would acknowledge it—that they’ve gotten off to a good start with nutrition and strength and conditioning.”—Greg McGarity
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:43 pm to DrSEC
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There is no number and if there was, no one on Tigerdroppings would know it.
My info sure as hell didnt come from TD.
How would you know there is no number? Also how do you know that no one important doesn't want him out?
I can tell you this for sure, there were a lot of very important people really pissed off about last season.
Look I really hope Richt turns it around personally. Probably one of the few UGA fans around here that wants that. Im just repeating what I have heard. If had not come from the person it did then I would have let it go in one ear and out the other.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:49 pm to Trojandawg
I just posted quotes from the people that matter. I am willing to bet that none of them are your source. Your source might have great recruiting info or team updates but only a handful of people would have a voice and none of them are your source.
I have only met one person that matters at UGA in big decisions. I am not friends with him and only was able to have lunch with him because I have a friend who is vice president of the bank. This person would not know me again if he met me on the streets I am sure.....I admit that. However, he made two things clear in his conversation. One, there is no number for Richt just improvement. Two, Kirby Smart is a POS in his opinion.
I have no connections in the UGA presidents, boards, or AD but I do have common sense. Read the quotes.
I have only met one person that matters at UGA in big decisions. I am not friends with him and only was able to have lunch with him because I have a friend who is vice president of the bank. This person would not know me again if he met me on the streets I am sure.....I admit that. However, he made two things clear in his conversation. One, there is no number for Richt just improvement. Two, Kirby Smart is a POS in his opinion.
I have no connections in the UGA presidents, boards, or AD but I do have common sense. Read the quotes.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:55 pm to DrSEC
Your going off a report from Bleacher Report? Ok I guess you showed me up.
Do you really think any of them would actually come out and say if he was on the hot seat or not, hell no. You use some common sense. They are gonna make it sound all peachy right now.
ETA: I just saw that apparently you wrote that article with Bleacher Report so im not even gonna waste my time with you anymore. You lost credibility IMO.
Do you really think any of them would actually come out and say if he was on the hot seat or not, hell no. You use some common sense. They are gonna make it sound all peachy right now.
ETA: I just saw that apparently you wrote that article with Bleacher Report so im not even gonna waste my time with you anymore. You lost credibility IMO.
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Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:01 pm to Trojandawg
Nope. Not BR but AJC.
Also, do you really think a coach with 15 years NFL experience is going to come and coach linebackers for a school that the coach has been given nine games?
While you are correct that most AD's would talk positive, they don't have people saying he is on their lap and the way he runs thing is bigger than a few bad seasons.
Just admit you have no source that could know a number because there is none. They want to see improvement. Even if mild, they are going to keep him.
Georgia football coach Mark Richt has full support of Adams, McGarity, athletic board
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:08 pm to DrSEC
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Just admit you have no source that could know a number because there is none. They want to see improvement. Even if mild, they are going to keep him.
My source is a former player that post on one of the premium boards and is still very well connected to the program and very well respected among the board.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:13 pm to Trojandawg
That is my point. He is a great source for most matters but not this one. The AD would not be stupid enough to put a number on it. Too many variables and handling Richt wrong would be the end of his career. Not to mention, for those who know Adams, I doubt he lets someone this new in the program make a decision on his own.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:39 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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y both Bryant and Dye. Considering Dooley coached from 1964-1988. That's in the midst of Bryant's height and Dye's height.
True dat.
Dooley was a damn solid coach though, and I always get tickled at the "excluding Herschel Walker" comments. Dooley was a sound fundamentals, conservative (maddeningly) offense, bend but don't break philosophy. Watching Dooley ball would make you want to absolutely pull your hair out and then slide around on the ground on your arse. But UGA was pretty successful (.715) with Dooley as coach, and they were rarely blown out.
As to HW, he was the ultimate player for the VD offensive system. Capable of playing in the I, carrying the ball 40 times a game, and allowing the defense to do the rest. Dooley went after his prize mule, got him, and rode him to a 3 SECC's and a national title.
Could he have done some things differently and won another? Yeah, probably. The '76 team was pretty good with the veer and probably could have had a national title (thanks Tony Dorsett) with a little more offensive creativity, there were some good teams in the late '60's that won an SECC but probably didn't hit their ceiling. But Dooley was far from an average coach.
Other than Bryant, I can't think of another I'd have taken during the years he coached at UGA, certainly no others in the SEC.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:40 pm to DrSEC
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You have to see how foolish that sounds. McGarity set a limit......that is going around the rumor circles.....of 9 wins. No offense but that is a bunch of crap. There is no number and if there was, no one on Tigerdroppings would know it.
Agree.
This is message board tardtastic fantasy talk.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:56 pm to Cosmo
8-4 and he be gone.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:57 pm to DrSEC
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DrSEC
I'm doing other stuff before bed so this is a quick drive-by post, although I'll be happy to keep it going in the morning.
Basically, you're flat out wrong. How do you know nobody here actually has inside information? Is it THAT inconceivable? I happen to know for a fact that Richt has been informed that he must win 9 games this year. I won't say how I know that, but I will say my source is inside the program and with the team. Why would I lie to try to impress a bunch of strangers I've never met?
Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:02 am to WG_Dawg
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Why would I lie to try to impress a bunch of strangers I've never met?
The same reason that 90% of people on message boards....with sources lie....to make people feel like they are important. Do you not agree that most people who have sources are full of crap?
It is very inconceivable that anyone on this board has ANY clue of a magic number that doesn't exist. It doesn't matter what I say......the people that matter say you are full of crap.
I will say it again. No way in this world they fire Richt without a disastrous season AND a big name available.
I seriously
at the notion that a fairly new AD is going to go balls to the wall and tell Richt he has to win 9 games before the season starts. What if he won 8 but made it to the SECC? Not out of the question if they dropped two in conference and two out of conference. Yet he didn't meet the magic number of 9. What if they started 8-1 and Aaron Murray went down with an injury (God-forbid) and they dropped the next three. Is he gone?
BE ON ALERT!!!! ANYONE WHO STATES THEY KNOW A MAGIC NUMBER OR SOMEONE THEY KNOW HAS THE MAGIC NUMBER.........They are full of crap.
You just don't get it
it doesn't matter if you got a source within the team (which really means a former player or a made up friend).There is only about 5 people that have ANY voice in the matter. I would go further and say IMO the AD has a very little voice.
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