re: what is your definition of "dynasty" as it relates to college football?

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Alabama is approaching it at this point. I say a dynasty truly needs six years to develop because it covers two full cycles of recruting classes. Teams that come to are Florida, Nebraska and Fla. State in the 90's, Penn State in the 80s, Alabama in the 60s and 70s and so on.

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Saban's been at Bama for 5 years now, and has won a grand total of 1 SEC title.

That's sort of remarkable, isn't it? Bama's been really good, they've won 2 BCSCG in 3 years, but they've only won 1 SEC title since Saban has been there.

Shows how tough the SEC is. Hasn't been a dynasty in the SEC since Spurrier's teams which won 4 SEC titles in a row from 93-96.

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Saban's been at Bama for 5 years now, and has won a grand total of 1 SEC title.

That's sort of remarkable, isn't it? Bama's been really good, they've won 2 BCSCG in 3 years, but they've only won 1 SEC title since Saban has been there.

Shows how tough the SEC is. Hasn't been a dynasty in the SEC since Spurrier's teams which won 4 SEC titles in a row from 93-96.

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Yeah, that's pretty much the only blemish in Saban's record. He needs to start stringing together some conference championships. However, he really isn't alone in this. There have been five different SEC Champions in the last five years. Saban might have only one SEC Championship in the last five years but it's not like anybody else has more. As for the '90s Gators, the coaching in the SEC was so weak back in those days. Phil Fulmer was the second best coach in the SEC back during the '90s. I don't even believe Fulmer's a better coach than Mark Richt and we all saw how quickly Fulmer became obsolete in the SEC as soon as the coaching in this conference got better.

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A dynasty is dominating your competition.

There is no one currently in the SEC that is any where close to be considered a dynasty. We've had 4 different teams win our conference the past 4 years in a row. Hell, we've had 3 different division champions the past 3 years.

In the last 10 years LSU, Florida, and Alabama have all had multiple National Championships.

In the last 10 years LSU, Florida, and Auburn have all had multiple conference championships.

So.....who is dominating who?

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It's not a coincidence that nearly all of the "dynasties" in college football either played in weak conferences or were independents i.e. USC in the 2000s, Florida State in the '90s, Miami in the '80s, Switzer's Oklahoma teams in the '70s, the Bama teams of the '60s and '70s back when the SEC was a much weaker conference, and so on.

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If Saban coaches another 10 years, IMO highly unlikely, and maintains his current pace he should get another 2-3 titles.

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I think the other conferences are going to do everything they can ASAP to change the BCS to end the SEC Dynasty.

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I know I'm gonna get hate for this, but Bama has a very good chance at winning it all the next two years to make it 4 NCs in 5 years. 2012 - Literally only have to beat LSU. The thing is this team is much more talented at this stage than the 2010 team, and they have a lot more experience. Plus, this could be our best Offense under Saban, but 2013's offense is going to be ever better. There is no reason to think that Bama could lose a surprise game, because that sort of thing only happened to them when they returned ONE defensive starter. If BP stayed at Arky they may've had a chance, but Michigan can't do it, only LSU can.

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You are going to be very sad when Bama loses to Michigan.

I'd say winning 5 NC in 4 season like Bama did between 1983-1986 makes a dynasty.

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Dynasty is over at least ten years. Just under half the time win the conference, and at least 2 national titles in that time period, probably more. So I'd say that the only dynasty in many years has been USC. Neither LSU, Florida, or Bama have had a dynasty, despite all winning 2 titles within a few years of each other. Florida was probably closest of those under Meyer with two titles, a Heisman, and a season that was one game from another title. Bama's recent success could become a dynasty if they win a third title within the next five years and around 3 SEC titles. I think conference titles are key to a dynasty - you're not a dynasty unless you're the unmistakable top dog in the conference for 9/10 seasons

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This definition excludes USC under Pete Carroll.

I'm sorry, I have to call that a dynasty.

Three titles in 5 years, and top 10 in the other two.

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Yep. Al Borges has never lost to the Gumps. The streak continues




I hope you're joking.....

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Nope Lt. Rollerblades, trends are not an accident. Broges has also never lost to Saban.

Dynasty examples (amongst a few):
Coach Bryant - 13 conference championships in 20 years.
Coach Bowden - 14 straight AP top 5 finishes.
Non Dynasty examples:
UF 2006 - 2008 2 SECCG 2 BCSCG 35 - 6
UA 2008 - 2011 1 SECCG 2 BCSCG 48 - 6

Let's hope the weather is fair in September so the multitude can enjoy the sunshine and hibernation stayed for a bit.