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Posted on 11/8/22 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by jbraua
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 5:16 pm to
The rumor yesterday was SDSU was going to the Pac-12 in a moment of desperation; however, Pac-12 has come back and denied it.

But where there's smoke...
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:31 pm to
Any scenario that splits Texas and TA&M into different pods is ridiculous. Looks like they're hiding from each other. Quite weak.
Posted by BigOrangeKen
Union City
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:36 pm to
I was hoping Texas would get lumped with Tennessee so we could make them our little Bytch
Posted by BigOrangeKen
Union City
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:40 pm to
I like pod B
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:02 pm to
There is only one set of pods that makes the most sense as it has the least downside. The only downside in the following is Auburn/Georgia do not play every year (possibly). Various ways to schedule but if you go to a 9 game SEC schedule, you play the 3 pod teams every year, and alternate 6 of the remaining 12 teams every year. Over 4 years, every conference team plays at least twice and at every other schools stadium at least once.

West Pod
Texas
Texas A&M
OU
Missouri

Midwest Pod
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Miss St

Mid East Pod
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Vandy

East Pod
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Posted by AUreo
Member since Jul 2021
2255 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Basically that is pretty balanced historically.


Makes sense
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
3243 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:42 am to
I agree with your pod layout, but will that force another set of games to be played to get to the SEC championship or will the two best teams from any pod, make it?

quote:

West Pod
Texas
Texas A&M
OU
Missouri

Midwest Pod
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Miss St

Mid East Pod
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Vandy

East Pod
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2738 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:09 pm to
Lol it couldn’t be any less balanced than putting Kentucky usce vandy and mizzou in the same division.......woof
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9812 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:10 pm to
Sankey already said no pods.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10717 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

I agree with your pod layout, but will that force another set of games to be played to get to the SEC championship or will the two best teams from any pod, make it?



I would like to see the two highest ranked pod winners make it to the SEC Championship, as I doubt they would do an SEC semi-final game. That would mean a team could potentially play 18 games (although 17 would be more likely) in a 12 team playoff scenario.

I guess the other downside to any 9 game conference schedule is half the teams would have 5 home conf games and the other half would have 4 conf home games, but I think any scenario has a 9 game conference schedule so we would have that regardless.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Oxford Ways
Member since Jun 2015
4705 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Midwest Pod
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Miss St


You Betcha!
Posted by CISO
ATX
Member since Nov 2021
1082 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:43 pm to
Last it was discussed in any official capacity, they were considering either 1 or 3 permanent opponents (depending on if they moved to 9 SEC games)and rotating through the rest of the SEC.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:58 pm to
Is there a way for the Big 6 to only have each other as permanent opponents?

Bama: Auburn, Tenn, LSU
Auburn: Bama, UGA, LSU
LSU: Bama, Auburn, Florida
Florida: UGA, Tenn, LSU
UGA: Auburn, Florida, Tenn
Tenn: Bama, Florida, UGA

And then let the rest of the conference figure their permanents out?
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
3243 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Last it was discussed in any official capacity, they were considering either 1 or 3 permanent opponents (depending on if they moved to 9 SEC games)and rotating through the rest of the SEC.


The thing with permanent opponents is general fairness that has been argued and whether or not traditions: whether actual or manufactured can all be kept or does some type of cutoff need to be made.

If we do standard east/west, no pods, then LSU gets 7 guaranteed games every year, leaving 5 remaining for non-conference and/or eastern opponents.

I'm going to assume that they will always want to leave, at minimum, three slots for non-conference games, giving us two remaining opponents.

How would those two be picked? Simply based on who has played each other the most? Who defines what a rivalry is?

It reminded me of articles like the following that I've seen in the past.

Simply put, who should decide what a cross conference rivalry should be?

Ranking the SEC's cross-divisional rivalries, older article from SDS
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

The only downside in the following is Auburn/Georgia do not play every year (possibly).

& NOBODY wants to get rid of the SEC's oldest game as an annual contest.

Therefore this setup AIN'T the best one.

These have to be kept as annual matchups:
MSU-Ala.-Tn.-Vandy
MSU-Ala.-Aub.-UGA-Fl.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:18 pm to
If you paired pods yearly, everybody plays each other in 3 years (full H/A rotation in 6). Best team in each set of 8 is an SECCG contestant.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

What is the latest on conference expansion/realignment... by WaterLink
Is there a way for the Big 6 to only have each other as permanent opponents?

Bama: Auburn, Tenn, LSU
Auburn: Bama, UGA, LSU
LSU: Bama, Auburn, Florida
Florida: UGA, Tenn, LSU
UGA: Auburn, Florida, Tenn
Tenn: Bama, Florida, UGA

And then let the rest of the conference figure their permanents out?


Not & have everybody balanced in rotation. Besides, when does a team play the other 2 B6 teams?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:36 pm to
Doing that would take 8 years to H/A the other division (2 games/year). & is the FAIREST way for schedule making But it DOES keep the easy determination on who the SECCG contestants are.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
19702 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

Besides, when does a team play the other 2 B6 teams?


It would still be playing the rest of the 12 teams on a rotating basis (assuming 9 conference game schedule). So you'd play 6 one year, and then the other 6 the next year. You could have 1 Big 6 team each in that rotation so any given year each of the Big 6 would play 4 games again the other Big 6. Maybe split up OU and Texas as well. It would certainly give the non-Big 6 teams a little bit of a boost since they'd only play 3 Big 6 teams a year instead of 4, but seeing as we're the Big 6 I think I'd make that concession if it means continuing playing these games annually which are the ones we as fans look forward to most.

That's just me though. I wasn't for this whole expansion thing to begin with pretty much for this reason. A lot of good annual matchups are gonna be regulated to every other year at best. If Texas/OU/TAMU wanted to play more SEC teams we could schedule them OOC like the East teams have their ACC rivalries. They didn't need to actually join the conference. We've already lost a bunch of good rivalries because of expansion and realignment and now more of them are gonna fall, or at least be half as frequent.

But I mean what's done is done.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 8:20 pm to
Hince my argument about the 1st pod breakdown since it split UGA/Aub..

However, the division split would work.
But, I still say WTF with whoever's 4 year rotation plan.

So, while putting Ala. & Aub. in the East geographically balances everything, it puts 5 of the B6 on 1 side... thereby throwing a wrench in the division angle.
This post was edited on 11/11/22 at 8:21 pm
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