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re: What is fair market value for a recruit like Zion.

Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:36 pm to
Bitcoin is not untraceable. In fact that is the exact innovation it offers- it has a huge blockchain tied to it that is basically a digital ledger that traces all the transactions using the currency. And the feds have already started sniffing around college basketball and they know how to read the chain (so many drug dealers have gotten busted thinking they are sneaky when the ledger just points straight at them).

There are ways to hide what you are doing some, like running it through many bitcoin wallets, or by just using crypto that is built for confidential transactions like Monero, but all of that requires a level of technical expertise beyond your average recruit and getting them access to such expertise would likely create some sort of papertrail.

Meanwhile cash is easy, untraceable, spendible by anyone, and can easily be passed around.

I bet if there is some sort of institutional hustle going its tied to insurance instead, IE agents creating life policies that families can then lend against.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:37 pm to
depends on the bank and how much they care. There isn't much papertrail other than 500k hitting the bank account. They can tell them they made a bunch of money in bitcoin. They aren't responsible for reporting anything other than the large transaction. That would be where a trust or a shell company would come into play. You could initially fund the "company or trust" with the bitcoin account.

gotta go I hear helicopters.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:46 pm to
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depends on the bank and how much they care

But also, how many banks actually do this?
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:47 pm to
They could be gifting everyone in the family 15k for it not to be a taxable event. I'm sure they have it figured out and to be quite honest I don't want to know. They are probably smart enough to structure payments for things too. Pay their light bill, rent, prepaid grocery card and some dollars mailed monthly. I doubt it is all done at once.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:50 pm to
Seems like a real lot of intricacies for a kid for 8 months.
This isn’t some long elaborate trading scheme.

Just feel like it would be cash
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:52 pm to
it is a requirement for them to do a currency transaction report for anything > 10k.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:55 pm to
A briefcase full of cash is a little shady. However, 3 travel size shaving kits full of cash is not.
Posted by SurfShackTito
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:56 pm to
Black people dont really use crypto currency so your theory probably isnt true. Not being racist Im sure some do use it but MOST, not all not all but MOST black people dont use crypto.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:58 pm to
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Not being racist Im sure some do use it but MOST, not all not all but MOST black people dont use crypto
You can make that exact statement for every race, BTW
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:58 pm to
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it is a requirement for them to do a currency transaction report for anything > 10k.

I know that I meant how many banks FX bitcoin
Posted by SurfShackTito
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:00 pm to
Yea thats true but this kids family isn't every race. If he was a Korean basketball star I would say, ok yea he got paid with crypto, but not in this case. It just wouldn't make any sense.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:01 pm to
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Yea thats true but this kids family isn't every race. If he was a Korean basketball star I would say, ok yea he got paid with crypto, but not in this case. It just wouldn't make any sense.


That is the type of issues handlers take care of.
Posted by SurfShackTito
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:03 pm to
Why do koreans need handlers?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Why do koreans need handlers?


It’s notning to do with koreans.
Zion’s family probably hired a handler (like an agent) who is educated in all this.
Family doesn’t do anything besides tell the Handler Zion will go to duke and sign with Nike when he goes to the NBA
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 3:05 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:05 pm to
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Yea thats true


So then why bring race into it? There is no barrier because of race and it has absolutely nothing to do with it. Pretty much akin to the photos of black athletes with nice things saying they must have been bought by recruiters.
Posted by SurfShackTito
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:06 pm to
So the handler was korean and took the crypto then is what youre saying. That makes sense to me because in my experience korean people are highly independent and Ive met a couple who like crytpo currency. I had a korean friend who tried to set up our weed dealer to take crytpo but he didn't want to use it.
Posted by SurfShackTito
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:06 pm to
Korean isnt a race you're making it about race not me.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:07 pm to
The person that showed me me the ins and outs and where to find good information on cryptocurrency was black guy. He also trades commodities to so maybe he is the exception for pretty much all races.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:09 pm to
the bitcoin market makers convert the dollars and you transfer the U.S. dollars from your e-wallet to your bank account. There is no FX transaction that takes place at the bank.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:15 pm to
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you're making it about race not me.


This is your comment

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Black people dont really use crypto currency so your theory probably isnt true. Not being racist Im sure some do use it but MOST, not all not all but MOST black people dont use crypto


You made it about race when you pretty much said any theory about crypto was null because they were black
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 3:17 pm
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