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re: What grade would you give Malzahn after 5 years
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:13 am to Paul B Ammer
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:13 am to Paul B Ammer
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Please. The only time you can beat Bama is with the help of the officials.
Give me a break
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:14 am to coachcrisp
You are such a brave man, calling someone scared from hundreds of miles away. Typical Bammer living vicariously thru 18-22 year olds success on a playing field because in real life you are a pussy. No, no way I want you to have a lifetime ban, you are too entertaining.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:22 am to Irons Puppet
quote:Hey SkyKing, I got a car..you got a car..you know where I live....don't let a few miles make a coward out of you.
You are such a brave man, calling someone scared from hundreds of miles away.
Hell, I'll even buy you a beer.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:28 am to coachcrisp
Coming to Pensacola next month.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:31 am to coachcrisp
quote:In fairness, outside of Bama and possibly UGa, which fan base hasn't done the same on this forum?
if y'all are gonna consider him to be "good" (a "B" grade), then your fan base should quit blistering him every time you lose a game
We've got a long way to go to catch up to LSU fans during the Les Era...
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:35 am to AU24
B-
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:39 am to FearlessFreep
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In fairness, outside of Bama and possibly UGa, which fan base hasn't done the same on this forum?
We've got a long way to go to catch up to LSU fans during the Les Era...
I hope y'all never catch up to them...the board couldn't take it!
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:40 am to AU24
I'll give him a C+/B-. If he hadn't beaten Alabama last year I'd give him a C-.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:42 am to Irons Puppet
quote:Sounds good...Good Lord willing, I'll be here!
Coming to Pensacola next month.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:57 am to AU24
Gus gets a B-
He's fits in perfectly at Auburn, they're obviously satisfied with his performance as evidenced by that $49mm/7yr guaranteed contract he inked prior to the SECCG.
He's fits in perfectly at Auburn, they're obviously satisfied with his performance as evidenced by that $49mm/7yr guaranteed contract he inked prior to the SECCG.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:21 pm to RT1941
I think AU see his potential , plus there isn’t much out there that could match his resume.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:05 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:I agree, they'd be taking a chance on another unproven coach and have to go through the transition all over again. It's slim pickin's getting a proven/quality HC right now.
I think AU see his potential , plus there isn’t much out there that could match his resume.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:48 pm to coachcrisp
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I don't have a problem with your conclusion, but if y'all are gonna consider him to be "good" (a "B" grade), then your fan base should quit blistering him every time you lose a game...hell, most of y'all wanted to run him off after the LSU game! ...you can't have it both ways!
You would not find a single post on this board or our Auburn board where I blister Gus. I tend to have a much more realistic view of it all. I see him as a good coach, who has the potential to grow to something better. More than anything I am convinced the expectations Saban has created is crushing coaches who are better than a few 8 win seasons seem to suggest. UTk and LSU are examples of programs IMO that moved on to quickly from a coach. I wouldn't want that for Auburn. I was in favor of the contract mainly because the uncertainty was hurting him on the recruiting trail. Auburn will likely never be a top 3 recruiting school, but staying close and beating our rivals on the "right" kids has always been our strategy. The talk JJ allowed to swirl around Gus the last two years has hurt him on the trail, especially when you look at a few recruiting evaluation misses mixed in as well.
In 4 years if we are mixing a 7 win season in with a bunch of 8 win seasons I'd be ok with trying someone else. Though I suspect we'd get someone less accomplished than Gus.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:49 pm to Tigerman97
At the end of the day, Auburn should've never been a place for "on-the-job" training of a HC or his staffers.
He's got 5 yrs under his belt and the training wheels are off, his job is secure, his seat is cool, his bank account is flush, he's got depth, a returning QB/OC, etc. There are no excuses left in the tank for losing more than 2 games this year.
He's got 5 yrs under his belt and the training wheels are off, his job is secure, his seat is cool, his bank account is flush, he's got depth, a returning QB/OC, etc. There are no excuses left in the tank for losing more than 2 games this year.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:55 pm to Luke
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C.... no trophy doesn't matter
This. He's borderline D for me. Definitely should have been let go after the thUGA game in 2016. He's not a championship caliber coach, and Auburn could do much better.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:14 pm to RT1941
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At the end of the day, Auburn should've never been a place for "on-the-job" training of a HC or his staffers.
This is actually a pretty uniformed statement about coaching...technically all but a small few are learning on the job. Gus' high school background clouds peoples perspective of him.
Champ was groomed to be a head coach by elite coaches...he came from a who's who of colleges and still failed miserably at UF. Dabo is/was learning on the job and has spent more time at Clemson where the fans wanted him gone than worshipping him like they do now.
You have 3 choices...
1) Have a big time coach fall in your lap...like Saban to bama, Spurrier to USCe or Meyer to OSU.
2) Call up a coach from the ranks of mid majors...people forget Gus won a conference title in his one year at Arkie St.
3) Pick a successful coordinator...IMO the success rate on this choice has to be less than 40%.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:40 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Light years ahead of Orgeron
lost straight up to orgeron. my word this insane asylum never ceases to amazePosted on 4/16/18 at 4:57 pm to Tigerman97
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You would not find a single post on this board or our Auburn board where I blister Gus.
It's too bad that you're not the sum total of the Auburn fan base then....there's gotta be a HUGE warehouse somewhere housing all the torches and pitchforks your fans had out on several occasions last year (especially after the LSU and Clemson games ).Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:41 pm to coachcrisp
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It's too bad that you're not the sum total of the Auburn fan base then....there's gotta be a HUGE warehouse somewhere housing all the torches and pitchforks your fans had out on several occasions last year (especially after the LSU and Clemson games
I agree. Many wanted him gone, but in truth they don't think logically about it. He's done enough to keep working with him. He got to much money, but that had more to do with the market than Auburn really wanting to pay that much money.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:57 pm to Tigerman97
Many wanted him gone mainly due to the Clemson and LSU Game.
After the Bama Game, his entire resume looked a lot better and the only real candidate as a replacement was Jimbo Fisher. Again, Gus's accomplishments are the second best in the Conference right now, so the $49M contract made perfect sense. We watched UF have to settle for Mullen (good choice, but not their first). Watched UT go after an unproven DC and Ark being jerked around (may be the best hire). Auburn did not want to start over.
After the Bama Game, his entire resume looked a lot better and the only real candidate as a replacement was Jimbo Fisher. Again, Gus's accomplishments are the second best in the Conference right now, so the $49M contract made perfect sense. We watched UF have to settle for Mullen (good choice, but not their first). Watched UT go after an unproven DC and Ark being jerked around (may be the best hire). Auburn did not want to start over.
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