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re: What do you want the sentence to be on Updyke

Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:02 pm to
I think that'd be a nice gesture
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:03 pm to
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You need to work on your schadenfreude.


Im not that vindictive.
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:06 pm to
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but the damage is over $3000



Man, if the $20 tree statute is found to be on point...there is gonna be some pissed off folks..
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:07 pm to
I'm sure Alabama state penitentiaries don't have room for the likes of Harvey Updike. There are real criminals out there that are violent that need that jail cell more than Harvey.

If Auburn fans had to choose between putting Harvey in a cell or putting the guy that just shot 3 Auburn (ex)football players, who would they choose?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:09 pm to
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Man, if the $20 tree statute is found to be on point...there is gonna be some pissed off folks..


But even if so, that would be for the trees themselves, not the neutralizing of the chemical, removal and repair to the area
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:09 pm to
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If Auburn fans had to choose between putting Harvey in a cell or putting the guy that just shot 3 Auburn (ex)football players, who would they choose?


You're an idiot.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:10 pm to
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You're an idiot.


If you can't put things into perspective then maybe you are a little too emotionally attached to the situation.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:11 pm to
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There are real criminals out there that are violent that need that jail cell more than Harvey. If Auburn fans had to choose between putting Harvey in a cell or putting the guy that just shot 3 Auburn (ex)football players, who would they choose?



Obviously the if given the option between the two, one would go with a violent. But we jail non violent criminals as well. one should just be there longer than the other
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:12 pm to
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If you can't put things into perspective then maybe you are a little too emotionally attached to the situation.


You're an idiot.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:13 pm to
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I'm sure Alabama state penitentiaries don't have room for the likes of Harvey Updike. There are real criminals out there that are violent that need that jail cell more than Harvey.

If Auburn fans had to choose between putting Harvey in a cell or putting the guy that just shot 3 Auburn (ex)football players, who would they choose?


You're fricking dumb.


eta: I see my sentiments have already been echoed.
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 12:14 pm
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:14 pm to
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But even if so, that would be for the trees themselves, not the neutralizing of the chemical, removal and repair to the area



But what if the difference is enough to knock it down to CMII? That would mean he would go from a Class C felony to a Class A misdemeanor...from up to 10 to not more than 1..
Posted by 10888bge
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:14 pm to
Shooting 3 people and tree murder are two distinctively different crimes. Both involve "killing", only one, and I'll let you guess, is deserving of jail time. The other should be punished with a full chest tattoo of cam newton and the score of that years Iron Bowl, Made to sing the Auburn school song, and must stand on Toomers corner and get rolled while in full AU gear.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:16 pm to
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But we jail non violent criminals as well. one should just be there longer than the other


Yes we do, when there is room for them or they are a threat to society.

Give the guy 90 days in jail. He'll do 30 days. 2 years probation and a fine. All of these idiots suggesting years in prison need to be slapped.
Posted by crispyUGA
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:16 pm to
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But even if so, that would be for the trees themselves, not the neutralizing of the chemical, removal and repair to the area


You could sell the trees to a hardwood flooring manufacturer, that'd recoup some of the money.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:17 pm to
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You're fricking dumb.


eta: I see my sentiments have already been echoed.



Yes they have. It's widely known that Auburn fans have to share brains sometimes when there is a shortage in the area.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:17 pm to
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But what if the difference is enough to knock it down to CMII?
You aware of case law that specifically defines what is included in calculating the damage under CM1? If it is merely the value of the trees and that statute applies, you may be right, but I believe the removal of the tainted dirt to prevent further damage exceeds $80,000. Not sure if that will be included or not.
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 12:18 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:17 pm to
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But what if the difference is enough to knock it down to CMII? That would mean he would go from a Class C felony to a Class A misdemeanor...from up to 10 to not more than 1..








they've already spent 80k + on dirt removal, So I'd say he is already there
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:18 pm to
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If it is merely the value of the trees and that statute applies



This is their argument, and that is why I said folks would be pissed.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:19 pm to
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If Auburn fans had to choose between putting Harvey in a cell or putting the guy that just shot 3 Auburn (ex)football players, who would they choose?
3 ex football players weren't shot. Auburn fans don't have to or get to choose. The question is absurd. Continuing to defend the question is even more absurd.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:20 pm to
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If Auburn fans had to choose between putting Harvey in a cell or putting the guy that just shot 3 Auburn (ex)football players, who would they choose?


You're also irrational.
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