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Week 8 SP+ Picks

Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:42 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:42 am
Week 8 SP+ picks

Auburn 34 (-19.5) - Arkansas 16

Florida 27 (-6) - South Carolina 21

LSU 38 (-18.5) - Mississippi St 24 (maybe we're all missing something between this and the line? I don't get it)

Missouri (-21) 40 - Vanderbilt 16

Georgia (-25) 39 - Kentucky 15

Texas A&M (-6.5) 31 - Ole Miss 23

Alabama (-34.5) 41 - Tennessee 14
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:44 am to
Yea so LSU is going to score the least amount of points they have on the year against a team that just lost to Tennessee. Gotta love that logic there. No way hell we score less than 45.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:44 am to
quote:

LSU 38 (-18.5) - Mississippi St 24 (maybe we're all missing something between this and the line? I don't get it)


Maybe because it’s a road game sandwiched between UF and AU? Who knows
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:44 am to
I don't know people put any stock in these things.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Florida 27 (-6) - South Carolina 21


I have no doubt this will be the best game of the weekend.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Yea so LSU is going to score the least amount of points they have on the year against a team that just lost to Tennessee. Gotta love that logic there. No way hell we score less than 45.



I mean, it's not logic. It's math.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14953 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:51 am to
I would take Kentucky and the points all day long. The weather in Athens this Saturday looks to be rainy and chilly, which will likely make for a lower scoring game
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:52 am to
quote:

I don't know people put any stock in these things.



Well it's 57% against the spread this year and has been > 50% for the past 6 years I believe.

So if you bet every game against the line the last half decade strictly on SP+ predictions you'd be sitting very pretty.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:53 am to
They’ve heavily underestimated LSUs offense all season so I’m not surprised. Whatever predicative math used hasn’t been accurate at all on that front.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 8:55 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86428 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Georgia (-25)


dafuq
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:54 am to
Does SP+ take trap game scenarios into account? That's the only reason I can think that LSU would come out slow. They can name the score against MSU if they wanted, and I don't think Brady/Burrow would choose only 38.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:55 am to
quote:

They’ve heavily underestimated LSUs offense all season so I’m not surprised. Whatever predicative math used hasn’t been accurate at all on that front.



Biggest thing there is it takes a long time to get all the prior season/preseason stuff out, and LSU this year is clearly an insano opposite from everything they've ever done before, so it takes a while to catch up there.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Does SP+ take trap game scenarios into account? That's the only reason I can think that LSU would come out slow. They can name the score against MSU if they wanted, and I don't think Brady/Burrow would choose only 38.



Yea I truly don't get it - but I mean the line isn't even over 20 either, so I have no idea. Vegas' line/OU right now equate out to LSU 40 - MSU 22, basically.

It makes no sense to me.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 8:58 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:56 am to
quote:

dafuq


Kentucky is pretty bad.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:00 am to
The lines for UT-Bama and LSU-State line up for the early line for LSU-Bama. Interesting
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:01 am to
quote:

The lines for UT-Bama and LSU-State line up for the early line for LSU-Bama. Interesting



Yea - I ran my very stupid model for LSU-Bama and it came out about exactly how everyone would expect. The difference in the line and my margin is in all likelihood the fact that alot of the bad Alabama defensive numbers in mine are from garbage time and not included in Vegas/SP+/etc models.



Alabama : 42
LSU : 39

Alabama
8.02 YPA
554 yards on 69 plays

LSU
8.22 YPA
567 yards on 69 plays


- Alabama averages 151% of opponents YPA averages
- Alabama gives up 99% of opponents YPA averages

- LSU averages 139% of opponents YPA averages
- LSU gives up 103% of opponents YPA averages
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 9:02 am
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:02 am to
GOD DAMN YOU CADE YORK

I might not survive that game
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:03 am to
quote:

GOD DAMN YOU CADE YORK

I might not survive that game





Yea it's absolutely going to be stroke inducing

America is gonna fvckin love it. All of us emotionally invested are gonna need morphine shots, though.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 9:04 am
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:37 am to
THIS!
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7294 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:49 am to
I will be the first to admit that SP+ is about as good as it get as far as predictive models go, but...

quote:

I mean, it's not logic. It's math.


That's not entirely true. Saying it's math makes it seem like this concrete thing that yields only correct results. It's data to which he applies his own weights.

I don't put any stock in these, because I don't really believe in relying on predictive models to tell what's going to happen in a game where a star player could have a bad game because he woke up in the wrong mood.

For example, the week 7 pick for UGA/SC was 36-17 in favor of the dawgs. While I understand that was an outlier, shite like that happens all the time.

They are fun numbers to look at, but I put absolutely no stock into them when I'm deciding my picks.
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