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re: Vols gonna go from “all sports school” to just “school”? NCAA investigation 2.0
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:35 am to tylerdurden24
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:35 am to tylerdurden24
Oh boy. I hope UT fights back instead of bending over like LSU did with Will Wade. If you are going down, go down fighting. I dislike UT, but hate the NCAA.
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Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:01 am to Jumbo_Gumbo
I’m going to spell it out for the mouth breathers.
Only a recruit’s family can pay for an unofficial visit. On unofficial visits, schools can have activities planned for the recruit, he can have meetings with the coaches etc.
If a third party (Spyre) pays for the flight, hotel, etc it cannot be an unofficial visit. The recruit can walk on campus, but there can be no planned activities, no meetings with the coaching staff, etc.
Say Nico was invited to a choir competition in Knoxville and the trip was paid for by his church. He could go visit UT. But there can be no activities around recruiting him. If there are, it is a violation.
UT violated NCAA rules by hosting an unofficial visit for Nico on a trip paid for by Spyre. Nico posted pics of himself at a UT softball game, meeting with Heupel. All of that is against the rules.
Nico was not the only Cali player in town on an unofficial visit that weekend either. Jordan Anderson (class of 2024) was on an unofficial visit as well. Jordan Anderson was offered a scholarship on that trip, but later committed to Oregon and then a few days ago Oregon State.
So I am sure the NCAA is looking to see if Jordan Anderson was flown in by Spyre that weekend as well, which would be another violation.
The statement released by Tom Mars, Spyre’s lawyer is to protect Spyre and pretend they aren’t doing pay for play deals to get recruits to Tennessee. Who cares?
The issue is that UT planned recruiting activities and an unofficial visit around a trip not paid for by Nico’s family, but Spyre.
Impermissible benefit, repeat offender. UT broke the rules by making an unofficial visit into an extra paid for official visit. The permitted one official visit was two weeks later when he committed to Tennessee.
This is a level 1 allegation with teeth.
There is no cop out about Cali laws and what Spyre did. This all about what Heupel did.
Only a recruit’s family can pay for an unofficial visit. On unofficial visits, schools can have activities planned for the recruit, he can have meetings with the coaches etc.
If a third party (Spyre) pays for the flight, hotel, etc it cannot be an unofficial visit. The recruit can walk on campus, but there can be no planned activities, no meetings with the coaching staff, etc.
Say Nico was invited to a choir competition in Knoxville and the trip was paid for by his church. He could go visit UT. But there can be no activities around recruiting him. If there are, it is a violation.
UT violated NCAA rules by hosting an unofficial visit for Nico on a trip paid for by Spyre. Nico posted pics of himself at a UT softball game, meeting with Heupel. All of that is against the rules.
Nico was not the only Cali player in town on an unofficial visit that weekend either. Jordan Anderson (class of 2024) was on an unofficial visit as well. Jordan Anderson was offered a scholarship on that trip, but later committed to Oregon and then a few days ago Oregon State.
So I am sure the NCAA is looking to see if Jordan Anderson was flown in by Spyre that weekend as well, which would be another violation.
The statement released by Tom Mars, Spyre’s lawyer is to protect Spyre and pretend they aren’t doing pay for play deals to get recruits to Tennessee. Who cares?
The issue is that UT planned recruiting activities and an unofficial visit around a trip not paid for by Nico’s family, but Spyre.
Impermissible benefit, repeat offender. UT broke the rules by making an unofficial visit into an extra paid for official visit. The permitted one official visit was two weeks later when he committed to Tennessee.
This is a level 1 allegation with teeth.
There is no cop out about Cali laws and what Spyre did. This all about what Heupel did.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 2:12 am
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:42 am to tylerdurden24
Typical uneven enforcement of vague rules by a capricious, morally bankrupt bureaucracy.
The NCAA has never been “just, kind, or humble.” It has consistently been vindictive, immoral, and corrupt.
The whole entity is setup counter to American values of “innocent until proven guilty” and the “right to face your accuser in court and cross examine.” They are a kangaroo court, and do not deserve any standing in our constitutional republic.
Burn it down..
The NCAA has never been “just, kind, or humble.” It has consistently been vindictive, immoral, and corrupt.
The whole entity is setup counter to American values of “innocent until proven guilty” and the “right to face your accuser in court and cross examine.” They are a kangaroo court, and do not deserve any standing in our constitutional republic.
Burn it down..
Posted on 1/31/24 at 5:31 am to tylerdurden24
Such a shame, I will really miss this tub of lard and the free W
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 5:32 am
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:24 am to Emmanuel Goldstein
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I’m going to spell it out for the mouth breathers. Only a recruit’s family can pay for an unofficial visit. On unofficial visits, schools can have activities planned for the recruit, he can have meetings with the coaches etc. If a third party (Spyre) pays for the flight, hotel, etc it cannot be an unofficial visit. The recruit can walk on campus, but there can be no planned activities, no meetings with the coaching staff, etc. Say Nico was invited to a choir competition in Knoxville and the trip was paid for by his church. He could go visit UT. But there can be no activities around recruiting him. If there are, it is a violation. UT violated NCAA rules by hosting an unofficial visit for Nico on a trip paid for by Spyre. Nico posted pics of himself at a UT softball game, meeting with Heupel. All of that is against the rules. Nico was not the only Cali player in town on an unofficial visit that weekend either. Jordan Anderson (class of 2024) was on an unofficial visit as well. Jordan Anderson was offered a scholarship on that trip, but later committed to Oregon and then a few days ago Oregon State. So I am sure the NCAA is looking to see if Jordan Anderson was flown in by Spyre that weekend as well, which would be another violation. The statement released by Tom Mars, Spyre’s lawyer is to protect Spyre and pretend they aren’t doing pay for play deals to get recruits to Tennessee. Who cares? The issue is that UT planned recruiting activities and an unofficial visit around a trip not paid for by Nico’s family, but Spyre. Impermissible benefit, repeat offender. UT broke the rules by making an unofficial visit into an extra paid for official visit. The permitted one official visit was two weeks later when he committed to Tennessee. This is a level 1 allegation with teeth. There is no cop out about Cali laws and what Spyre did. This all about what Heupel did.
I think I’ll go ahead and trust Tom Mars’s legal opinion over yours. Kthnkx.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 6:26 am
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:27 am to Smokeyone
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Spyre is going everything right and above board and in compliance with both State and National laws and NCAA guidelines as they exist.
Poor old Tennessee is just flat out being picked on!
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:02 am to Poichess
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Poichess
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:09 am to BamaGradinTn
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Tennessee fans posting that because it's by Spyre and therefore outside the university's jurisdiction are either the stupidest fans in the conference or just yapping to save face.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:15 am to Emmanuel Goldstein
quote:Good write up, now for your next trick, get their heads out of the sand to read it.
I’m going to spell it out for the mouth breathers.
Getting them to understand it however is probably beyond the powers of mere mortals. The do root for the stinking Vols, so there’s only so much you can do.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:13 am to Volatile
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I think I’ll go ahead and trust Tom Mars’s legal opinion over yours. Kthnkx.
You dummies don’t understand Mars was only speaking about Spyre, his client. Not once did he defend UT hosting an unofficial visit on a trip paid for by Spyre. That is on UT for violating the rules. Nico could have walked around on campus without any violations if UT did not plan recruiting activities that weekend for him.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:20 am to Emmanuel Goldstein
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:53 am to LewEvansFan
Just because they said it doesn’t make it fact there youngin. Of course that’s what they will say and the ncaa will say okay booster club, you are disassociated just like the fsu booster club. Y’all really are some stupid, thick headed mothers.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 9:54 am
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:05 am to artompkins
Bama fan, opinion invalid.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:14 am to LewEvansFan
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Hope you’re doing well this morning, little kid. Just wanted to provide you a link.
Try posting something relevant. UT cannot host recruiting activities on a trip paid for by a third party.
Nico could have as many unofficial visits as he wanted, but only if his family paid for the trip. Nico could have walked around on campus on the Spyre paid trip and it not be a violation. But as soon as UT hosted recruiting activities, it became a violation. Heupel screw up and got caught.
There was no issue raised for two years, until it came out that Nico’s family did not pay for the trip and UT hosted recruiting activities of an unofficial visit.
Level 1 violation by a repeat offender.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:19 am to Emmanuel Goldstein
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UT cannot host recruiting activities on a trip paid for by a third party.
They didn’t. :)
LINK
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:39 am to LewEvansFan
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They didn’t. :)
They did. Nico posted the evidence on his Twitter timeline. Even has a picture of him with Heupel. Jordan Anderson was there too on an unofficial visit. If Spyre paid for that trip too, another level 1 violation for UT.
But you can hear an interview from Nico posted on March 6, 2022 describing what UT did for him on the unofficial visit, including meeting with the coaches to talk about the UT offense and where he fits in.
Nico describing rule breaking “unofficial” visit.
Level 1 violation, repeat offender.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 10:40 am
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:49 am to LewEvansFan
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LINK
Irrelevant dummy. Spyre can pay for a flight and hotel to meet with Nico. But as soon as Heupel and UT hosted recruiting activities for Nico on that trip, Heupel and UT committed a level 1 violation. Mars does not address this at all. He is only speaking about Spyre, not what Heupel and UT did.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:56 am to LewEvansFan
I just want to congratulate the Mizzou Tiger poster for being THE BIGGEST IDIOT on this thread. Babbles all this BS and still doesn't get it.
Who's paying the players on his team?
The state of Missouri
That's how we lost one of our targeted recruits!
He just needs to sit down and STFU!
Who's paying the players on his team?
The state of Missouri
That's how we lost one of our targeted recruits!
He just needs to sit down and STFU!
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:03 am to Emmanuel Goldstein
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Irrelevant dummy. Spyre can pay for a flight and hotel to meet with Nico.
That ends the conversation right there. So you know this is a nothing burger.
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But as soon as Heupel and UT hosted recruiting activities for Nico on that trip, Heupel and UT committed a level 1 violation
Actually only if it was coordinated between UT athletic officials and Spyre AND you can prove it. Which there is no indication that it was or is. It was not a planned official visit by any indication. What was UT supposed to do in your scenario? Nico shows up and they turn him away? Especially since they were not expecting him or knew of why he was in town?
Come on dude, this isn’t what you want it to be. When the Vols have screwed up they have cooperated and even self reported. This is the NCAA trying to put the genie back in the bottle with a program they thought wouldn’t stand up to them.
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