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re: Vols aren't welcome in TEXAS

Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:33 am to
Posted by Atxgump
Austin
Member since Nov 2015
4372 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:33 am to
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Too Bad Austin has happily sold themselves out to those Californicated Pinkos


Yeah all that technology is damn confusin'
And those jobs...what's that shite about?
Stay the frick out of austin peckerwood, no govt cheese here.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:36 am to
quote:

Going to be a melt of supernova proportion when you dogfrickers realize that you really truly are the bitches of both UT's.


They may need counseling.

Walt

UT '81
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:05 am to


This is a cool image. It shows the palisade at the south wall of the Alamo. This was the area defended by Crockett and his 5 or 6 Tennesseans and about a dozen others.

This position was attacked by a Mexican force of about 10 times that number. According to "A Time To Stand" by Walter Lord, Crockett and his men drove off this force.

Santa Anna, who fancied himself a military genius had the Alamo attacked from all four sides. The forces from south, east and west drifted around to the north side, where the Mexicans came over and even through the wall. They quickly dispatched all the defenders. The Mexican force in the actual attack was about 1,800.

In both the "Wayneamo" and the 2005 "The Alamo" Crockett wound up in the chapel itself which is visible to right rear of the palisade (left rear of the defenders).

The only Anglo adult to survive the battle, Susanna Dickenson, later wrote conflicting accounts of the battle. At one point she said she saw Crockett's body which she recognized also by his distinctive hat.

Hotly contested still is the account that 5 or 6 defenders were captured alive and immediately cut down by the swords of Santa Anna's staff.

If you listen to the Marty Robbins' "Ballad of the Alamo" one line is:

"You may look in vain for crosses but you'll never find a one."

The Mexicans burned the defenders' bodies using the timbers from the palisade.

Travis' slave Joe also survived the battle, but no record of what happened to him survived.

Ballad Of The Alamo

There was even an Alamo war game.




Walt

UT '81
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 7:14 am
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:15 am to
That's some solid info, Walt
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:25 am to


Dramatic but false image of Crockett's men defending the south wall; this is from the "Wayneamo." John Wayne is 3rd from the left. The attack began in full darkness was the fighting was over before the sun came up.

Walt

UT '81
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:29 am to
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That's some solid info, Walt


Thanks, it is a fabulous story.

Another aspect of the Alamo story is the effect back in the US.

The Alamo defenders included the son of the governor of South Carolina and many other notables. It wasn't a bunch of dirt farmers by any means.

About 15-20 women and children did survive the fighting.

Walt

UT '81
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4405 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:35 am to
It sucks people like that cut their life short voluntarily,so some a**hole like the OP can disrespect their sacrifice....To the applause of the aggots. ...who are not worthy to even live in the same state these men died.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:42 am to
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mattloc


Takes the Rant seriously
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19183 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:42 am to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:44 am to


Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:45 am to
Also according to Lord’s 1960 account “A Time To Stand,” the Mexican forces on the east, west and south were driven off and drifted around to the north wall, where a force of 400 Mexicans had been detailed to attack. The Mexicans brought ladders to scale the walls but these proved flimsy and were useless.

For a few minutes a huge mass of Mexican soldiers clamored and shouted at the foot of the north wall. The assault could have failed totally. In desperation, the Mexicans began using their bayonets to open up the firing slits the Texicans had made in the adobe wall. They did literally come through the wall and also over it. The firing of the Mexicans kept the Texicans down and suppressed their fire.

Travis was shot dead at the very start of the fighting. But following his plan some of the Texicans retreated into the “Long barracks” which is also visible in the image. The Mexicans seized some of the Alamo cannon and blasted these defenders. Mexican soldiers entered the barracks and killed all who remained.

The Mexican force was elite. Santa Anna’s army was about 5,000+ . Most of these were barefoot peasant militia. The elite force of 1,800 that conducted actual attack could drill and fight in the European fashion. It sustained as many as 500 casualties. That basically wrecked it as an effective fighting force.

A few weeks later at San Jacinto, the Texicans wrecked Santa Anna’s army and captured the big “He Bull” himself.

Walt

UT '81
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:46 am to
Whoa. Rustled for sure. This is the way of the Rant....

The bravery and sacrifice at the Alamo allowed for the Battle of San Jacinto to take place. All Texans learned this in 7th grade.

Thanks Vols. But now we gotta play football.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:46 am to
quote:

quote:

You have clearly never been to Midland


You misspelled Odessa.


And neither of you have been to Karnes City.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24078 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:57 am to
No one here has been to Falfurrias, obviously.
Posted by Chingon
Texas
Member since Aug 2016
227 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:04 am to
I'm taking this.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4094 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:24 am to
I don't think any military Mexico had could be considered "elite"
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

I don't think any military Mexico had could be considered "elite"


Hard to say. It wasn't easy getting inside the Alamo.

Walt

UT '81
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83555 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:07 pm to
I'm not reading this entire thread but I assume the whole:

"we would be part of Mexico if Tennessee hadn't saved our pussy forefathers"

thing has been discussed?
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24078 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:08 pm to
We did that from about page 2 to page 8 if you want the highlights.
Posted by Big Balls
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
846 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:10 pm to
I saw a Tennessee fan out here in Texas at a Subway once. He had on a dirty black hat with the big "T" on the front of it. It was so dirty it looked like the burnt orange Texas "T". I walked up beside him to fill my drink and I said, "Hey buddy, you a Tennessee or a Texas fan?" He rolled his eyes and said, "Yeah, can you not tell by the big orange "T" on the front of my hat?" I responded with "Oh, there it is!" He said, "Yeah, pretty obvious, ain't it?" I said, "Yeah that "T" on the top of the hat wasn't what gave it away. It's the a-hole underneath it that I should have noticed immediately."
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 2:21 pm
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