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re: Vol fans not buying what Dooley's selling

Posted on 7/19/11 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 3:05 pm to
winning cures everything.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 3:13 pm to
we haven't been ranked in 4 years. that's the answer.
"If you win, they'll come."
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:14 pm to
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Mike Shula 2.0 without the recruiting ability.


I'm not overly confident in Dooley's ability to build a winner. That being said, I definitely don't think he's as bad as Shula.
This post was edited on 7/19/11 at 5:15 pm
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:17 pm to
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Vols are going down hard with NCAA
after what LSU got today



I'm not sure why our basketball program getting hit hard would affect the fans opinion of Dooley.
This post was edited on 7/19/11 at 5:17 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:25 pm to
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I like Dooley a lot and hope he has success there. Why exactly at UT fans unhappy?



He has accomplished nothing except that he has a famous Dad... Dooley=Shooola=Tiny Terry Bowden


That's f'king stupid. Dooley may or may not be a decent coach but having a famous dad has absolutely no bearing on how well he will perform.


Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:29 pm to
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Vols are going down hard with NCAA
after what LSU got today


What's Vols basketball got to do with Dooley?
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:46 pm to
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thats because he doesnt have the REC to back him. anyone can recruit with that type of help


Yeah, those old farts getting together every month for a mediocre meal are really burning up the recruiting trail.
Posted by PrideOfTheSouthland
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:49 pm to
There is a lot... A LOT of misinformation in this thread. But, hey... what am I to expect from an online thread.

A.) UT infractions, with football, were minor violations. LSU violations that were announced today were MAJOR.

B.) Very few Vol fans are "not buying what Dooley is selling". In fact, an overwelming majority believe he is the best person for the job. He has made countless number of steps in the right direction for the football program.

C. "arguably the best secondary in the SEC" was a direct quote from Phil Steele.

D. Those who believe Dooley is Shula 2.0, will be sadly mistaken.
This post was edited on 7/19/11 at 5:52 pm
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:50 pm to
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Most Tennessee fans are sick of watching 6-8 win teams. Until Dooley puts together a good season, not many will buy in.


They need to give Dooley a chance first though. He head literally nothing to work with last year, and will have only a LITTLE more this year. Year 3, Dooley has a coming out party. Bank on it. Maybe not an SECCG appearance or anything, but it will be a season the fans will get behind. Bookmark it.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:53 pm to
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Very few Vol fans are "not buying what Dooley is selling". In fact, an overwelming majority believe he is the best person for the job. He has made countless number of steps in the right direction for the football program.


A lot of those same fans are willing to give him 5 years before even holding him to any respectable standard. In other words, many fans are simply so terrified of making a change that they'll bury their heads in the sand and assume everything is working out.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:55 pm to
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They need to give Dooley a chance first though. He head literally nothing to work with last year, and will have only a LITTLE more this year. Year 3, Dooley has a coming out party. Bank on it. Maybe not an SECCG appearance or anything, but it will be a season the fans will get behind. Bookmark it.


Exactly what kind of record are you talking about in year 3? There certainly should be some improvement in 2012, but I'm not sure how much there will be.


I've seen some reasons to be optimistic, but not enough to be confident that Dooley's the guy.
This post was edited on 7/19/11 at 5:56 pm
Posted by PrideOfTheSouthland
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:55 pm to
5 years may be too patient. Years 3 and 4 will be critical for him and his future.

As long as the defense beefs up, the overall product should be very good.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:58 pm to
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As long as the defense beefs up, the overall product should be very good.


Agreed

quote:

selling
5 years may be too patient. Years 3 and 4 will be critical for him and his future.

Agreed as well, but I'm not even sure he'll get a 4th year if the 3rd year sucks.
Posted by PrideOfTheSouthland
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 6:03 pm to
I believe he'll get at least 4. Last years depth at OL and DL was so thin, he has to have time to fill that gap.

Dooley as said several time, it was like last year was year zero instead of year 1. Just give the state of the program, and the end result of the 2009 class.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20996 posts
Posted on 7/19/11 at 6:05 pm to
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I believe he'll get at least 4. Last years depth at OL and DL was so thin, he has to have time to fill that gap.

Dooley as said several time, it was like last year was year zero instead of year 1. Just give the state of the program, and the end result of the 2009 class.


I think he'll be here in year 4, but it's just not guaranteed.

If Tennessee goes 7-5 the next two seasons, I'd bet he won't be back for 2013.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 6:13 pm to
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We've gone through a decade of mostly mediocrity from the two previous regimes


Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 6:14 pm to
Do you disagree?
This post was edited on 7/19/11 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 6:15 pm to
Not at all. Just enjoying it.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 6:16 pm to
I thought that may be it.
Posted by PrideOfTheSouthland
Gateway to the South
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 6:21 pm to
Probably as much as we enjoyed the late 90s and early 2000 of bama
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