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Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:17 pm to DocHogliday
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:17 pm to DocHogliday
Arkansas fans are Karen’s
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:18 pm to Possumslayer
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Kick him off the team
Tell that to Smokey One. He thinks someone charged with Felony Assualt should get a 2 game suspension and you should be kicked off the team if you exceed the speeding limit.
That said, I don't think he should be kicked off the team, either. He should be screamed at by the coaches and made to run the steps. Maybe benched a game and reminded he represents the University when he is wearing the uniform. If it happens again, then kick him off.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:18 pm to DocHogliday
Trash school. Trash program. Trash fans.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:19 pm to DawgsLife
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So, it is your opinion that the 320 pound DT perceived the 170 pound student as a threat
I have no idea. But all the player has to say is he perceived the guy as a threat. How are you going to disprove it?
History is littered with examples of David slaying Goliath. Did you not see the Vandy-Bama game or Arky-Tenn game yesterday? If the little guy never won, we wouldn’t be discussing this.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:19 pm to MillerLiteTime
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And the school's that repeatedly allow and even encourage this type of fan behavior will absolutely be liable if/when injuries happen or an injured athlete can't be attended to or if further hurt by fans. Imagine having a torn ACL and trying to get off a field with 25,000 people running at you from the opposite direction.
And in 130 years or more of college football this has never happened? However in the last 2-3 years multiple incidences of players attacking/hitting fans have. Which do you think is the bigger problem?
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:19 pm to captdalton
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You are the one advocating for fans storming the field.
Strawman.
Has nothing to do with whether or not someone is allowed to assault someone else, in the back, as they are running the opposite direction.
For some reason, you’re confused and think that it does.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:20 pm to Man4others
The only Karen here is Omari Thomas.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:21 pm to DeathByTossDive225
You have posted nothing but your feelings. We have asked for some concrete real world examples to support your opinions but you just name call.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:21 pm to dchog
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An Arkansas fan should have taught him a lesson.
Take that garbage back to Tennessee.
Yes. An Arkansas fan should teach a 320 pound DT that has been lifting weights and running for 15 years or so a lesson? I do agree with the people saying the fans have no business being on the field and should stay off it. I don't see a viable way of enforcing it, and don't believe it gives players the right to attack a fan.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:21 pm to DocHogliday
Stupid refs. That's clearly a block in the back.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:22 pm to captdalton
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all the player has to say is he perceived the guy as a threat
No because there is a video of him pushing the kid in the back.
You keep saying the same shite over and over & ignoring every debunking of your insane argument.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:24 pm to Georgia Jailbird
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He might just pick a Dawg or two in Athens this year. They gonna get knocked the frick out.
Since he graduated last year, I am doubting he does a whole lot.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:26 pm to Litigator
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I do not have to tout my credentials to you and even as a lawyer I understand I will never know but a small part of it overall as it is so vast but that said
Wow, not much punctuation required in law school then ?
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:26 pm to captdalton
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You have posted nothing but your feelings. We have asked for some concrete real world examples to support your opinions but you just name call.
No, you’re flailing around trying to deflect away from outing yourself as someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
You didn’t know what a plaintiff was. You think evidence means a conviction, when it makes sense why a fan might not press charges in a case like this.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:28 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Has nothing to do with whether or not someone is allowed to assault someone else, in the back, as they are running the opposite direction.
The fact it happened when fans stormed the field is 100% relevant. It is also why you can’t list one example of a player being charged with assault during one. Circumstances absolutely do matter in the real world.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:29 pm to Litigator
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TBH normally I normally don’t engage in legal discussions on social threads with non-lawyers for all the reasons that are illustrated in this thread because it is normally all emotion and seldom solidly grounded legal arguments that have anything at all to do with the real state of the law.
TBH I normally don't engage in debate with attorneys who can't separate a general policy discussion from a legal brief for all the reasons illustrated in this thread because those types of attorneys start spouting lightly researched legal nonsense thinking no one else has the right to disagree. As a self-professed attorney, you know damn well this situation is not as simple as you are trying to make it to be. There are multiple avenues by which the UT player could defend his actions, and many reasons any sane DA would never pursue charges here. DA's like winning cases, not public humiliation.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:29 pm to captdalton
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The fact it happened when fans stormed the field is 100% relevant.
It’s relevant to a separate conversation about field storming.
It has ZERO relevance to whether or not assault is assault. There is a video of him pushing someone moving away from him and with their head turned — in the back.
You are a moron. And you have zero understanding of the legal system if you think no charge equates to the player being legally justified.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:30 pm to dchog
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He was butthurt.
There is no doubt about that. he was mad about the game. He only had 1 tackle, so he probably did not have a good game. He was mad. he struck out.
But that is why students should stay off the field. That said, if they go on the field the players also should realize they cannot attack the students.
When I played our coaches made it clear, if we lost shake the hands of the opposing teams, but get off the field as quickly as possible. But it's silly to defend a player for attacking a fan. A 320 pound player with pads on and a helmet in his hand is not feeling threatened by a 170 pound fan wearing street clothes.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:31 pm to DawgsLife
Yes just because he is big doesn't mean he will win in a fight.
All it takes for him is to attack the wrong person and he will find out the hard way.
Fortunately for him no one was in the mood.
All it takes for him is to attack the wrong person and he will find out the hard way.
Fortunately for him no one was in the mood.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:32 pm to DawgsLife
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A 320 pound player with pads on and a helmet in his hand is not feeling threatened by a 170 pound fan wearing street clothes.
The only relevant piece of information you need is that he pushed him in the back.
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