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re: Video bought by LSU is old, low quality.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 9:58 pm to NBamaAlum
Posted on 7/20/11 at 9:58 pm to NBamaAlum
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Funny. I just saw a thing where The Texas Network ESPN started is going to start showing high school games...hmmm. Maybe they don't want anyone cutting into their area?
speaking of which, the network has put all games on hold...as of now they arent airing now
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 9:58 pm to CFBFAN1121
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-Dan Wetzel 2 mins ago
@ByLawBlog owns Wetzel's soul...
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This is news to me. What bylaw is that? RT @DanWetzel: NCAA limits number of recruiting services a school can purchase in a region.
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NCAA prohibits an institution from purchasing multiple subscriptions to a particular service. No limit by region.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 9:59 pm to AlaTiger
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We aren't asking what you have favorited on your mom's computer. When you are looking for certain videos, you have to go a service that can put this together.
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The analysis of video footage obtained by "Outside the Lines" through a public-records request concludes that the information would likely be of little use during the recruiting process.
Some of the clips did identify and show current junior college players who could be recruited, but some of the highlight packages appear to have been used without permission from online sports-video companies that assembled them, and at least four players' clips can be found on public video sites like YouTube.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:00 pm to crimsonsaint
will the OP please retitle this thread - "As the Corndog Fries"
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:05 pm to HailToTheChiz
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his thread is awesome haha...lsu is going to burn
If LSU Burns then Oregon will no longer have a football team. At least we had him conform to every other service we used. UO scrambled at the end and tried to cover their tracks.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:05 pm to HailToTheChiz
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speaking of which, the network has put all games on hold...as of now they arent airing now
Really? What happened with that?
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:10 pm to jatebe
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DanWetzel Dan Wetzel As Yahoo reported weeks ago, LSU paid for CA, KS Juco package, but per Will Lyles: "all they wanted to discuss was Texas high schools" 9 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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DanWetzel Dan Wetzel NCAA limits number of recruiting services a school can purchase in a region. LSU's already had TX service. So Lyles became JUCO scout
This has got to make LSU fans a little nervous. I'm not saying there is anything to it but I don't want Wetzel or Robinson tweeting shite about Auburn.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:12 pm to marshallcotiger
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This has got to make LSU fans a little nervous. I'm not saying there is anything to it but I don't want Wetzel or Robinson tweeting shite about Auburn.
It would have, if Wetzel were correct. See my last post. Wetzel was quickly corrected by @ByLawBlog.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:13 pm to Vood
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If LSU Burns then Oregon will no longer have a football team. At least we had him conform to every other service we used. UO scrambled at the end and tried to cover their tracks.
i agree haha
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:13 pm to marshallcotiger
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:14 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:17 pm to GulfCoastBiased
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It would have, if Wetzel were correct. See my last post. Wetzel was quickly corrected by @ByLawBlog.
Fair enough but I still wouldn't want either one of those Yahoo guys even thinking about Auburn.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 10:18 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Posted on 7/20/11 at 11:06 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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So we bought a bad product Doesn't equal a violation.
This statement differs from the original ones we first heard from all of you. I recall most of you saying LSU is good everything is legit and all the material on the DVD's are of current recruits.
I am not saying you are in trouble or that Lyles was paid to help LSU recruit. I am saying this whole thing is not clean and neat. Even Dan Wetzel of Yahoo has commented on this issue and it wasn't very sympathetic towards LSU.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 11:11 pm to CFBFAN1121
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have you not been reading the LSU posters thumping their chest about their compliance department and how everything they did with lyles was legit.
Looks like they did a damn fine job to me.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 11:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Looks like they did a damn fine job to me.
The job of the compliance department is to make sure your athletic teams comply with NCAA rules (hence the word compliance).
Did LSU's football team comply to the rules regarding this issue?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:15 am to CFBFAN1121
The facts of the matter are that LSU appears to have received what it paid for.
The article says the quality of the DVD's is low. The same article indicated that a film of Mettenberger was identical to that of another site that would have charged far more for the same video.
Quite a different write up than what The Oregonian had:
Willie Lyles update: LSU received 32 player-video DVDs for $6,000
...based on that, it looks like LSU got what it paid for. Namely, the "2010 JUCO perState Package".
Was Lyle's service of the best quality? It appears not. Was his price the highest for the same material? Again, it appears not.
At least, not in LSU's case
Any one trying to make a case out of this is going to run into a couple of road blocks.
Namely, that most, if not all of the recruits associated with Lyles did not sign with LSU. And $6,000 is a ridiculously low figure to be quibbling about.
The article says the quality of the DVD's is low. The same article indicated that a film of Mettenberger was identical to that of another site that would have charged far more for the same video.
Quite a different write up than what The Oregonian had:
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LSU received 32 DVDs of game and player highlight film for the $6,000 it paid Houston-based talent scout Willie Lyles for his "2010 JUCO perState Package," again raising the question of what Oregon received for its $25,000 payment to Lyles.
LSU released copies of the DVDs to The Oregonian on Thursday in response to a request under open-records law. As promised in Lyles' invoice, the videos included film of California and Kansas junior college players from the 2010-11 recruiting year.
Willie Lyles update: LSU received 32 player-video DVDs for $6,000
...based on that, it looks like LSU got what it paid for. Namely, the "2010 JUCO perState Package".
Was Lyle's service of the best quality? It appears not. Was his price the highest for the same material? Again, it appears not.
At least, not in LSU's case
Any one trying to make a case out of this is going to run into a couple of road blocks.
Namely, that most, if not all of the recruits associated with Lyles did not sign with LSU. And $6,000 is a ridiculously low figure to be quibbling about.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:16 am to AuburnCPA
6k is chump change. We pay a guy 300k just to recruit louisiana. If we go down, so will cal, oregon, texas, and auburn.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:51 am to HailToTheChiz
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HailToTheChiz
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...lsu is going to burn
Wanna bet? If LSU receives any penalties because of this, i won't post on TD for a year. If they don't, you won't post on TD for a year.
Obviously you can't create a new annoying aubie account after you lose the bet.
Bottom line: Do you have nuts, or just a mouth?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:55 am to crimsonsaint
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The analysis of video footage obtained by "Outside the Lines" through a public-records request concludes that the information would likely be of little use during the recruiting process.
So, Outside the Lines concluded this, also coming to the conclusion that LSU really paid Lyles to recruit for them and used the tapes as a front? All because OTL "concluded" they were of low quality and "would likely be of little use during hte recruiting process"?
Can ESPN reach a lower level of hackery?
What does OTL know about recruiting? If LSU got film on even a handful of players, which OTL admits was on the tapes
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Some of the clips did identify and show current junior college players who could be recruited
then they were of value.
Idiots.
As for the next quote,
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but some of the highlight packages appear to have been used without permission from online sports-video companies that assembled them
that is LSU's fault? Is LSU now being investigated for copyright infringement? This is pathetic.
So Lyles did a crappy job. Is anyone surprised that a guy who makes his living on the recruiting circuit is not the brightest bulb in the box? I'm not. How is this a violation again?
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and at least four players' clips can be found on public video sites like YouTube.
Out of how many? So, LSU is supposed to scour Youtube and put clips together while also getting individual videos from a bunch of other recruiting services and also finding film on Junior College players from various places and then put all that together on 32 DVD's.
How many hours would that take? I wonder if that would be worth, oh, I don't know. Say, $6,000?
More?
ESPN, and especially Outside the Lines, is run by a bunch of idiots. That is well proven.
The piece that they did on oversigning where they tried to implicate LSU was so full of falsehood, it could only qualify as a smear piece. Now, this non-story, "story" that they are basically making up by their own analysis while contradicting themselves every other sentence.
Again, what has LSU done wrong here? What are the allegations? They can't even make allegations. With the Cam thing, the allegations were that he got paid to attend Auburn. I am still waiting to even hear what the allegations are for LSU based on anything that could have actually happened.
Willie Lyles influenced players to go to LSU? How do they know that? Is that an allegation or just speculation based on their imaginations?
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