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re: USC Trojans 1978 National Champs outright
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:57 pm to Mizzouligan
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:57 pm to Mizzouligan
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1978, USC beat them head to head on the road. No way that title shouldn't go to USC.
Again it was way more complicated than that.
USC lost two weeks later. Bama ran the table.
Bama beat #1 as a #2 in the Bowl game... USC was #3 and beat #5 in the Rose Bowl.
In any normal world #2 beats #1... they go to #1.
But the UPI jumped #3 to #1 after they ranked them BEHIND the team that beat #1 going into the bowl games.
Which is problematic. Why didn't the UPI have USC ahead of Bama based on the head to head BEFORE the bowl games? Well... because they lost after that.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:12 pm to 3down10
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You mean like 4 of the 6 National Championships Tennessee claims?
You notice no Tennessee fans ran in here, "we does too done it so have 6" We don't care.
You sidewalk fan Bammer get all defensive. It means everything in your worthless lives.
WTF does it matter to you bandwagon riders that never attended Bammer? You have never stepped foot into a classroom there.
"WE DO TOO HAVE 18!!!"


No, you don't.

This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:53 pm to Bob the Ogre
Alabama doesn’t have to claim 18 to have the lead. They have 13 undisputed poll era national titles, five more than second place.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:58 pm to Oklahomey
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Alabama doesn’t have to claim 18 to have the lead. They have 13 undisputed poll era national titles, five more than second place.
No, they do not.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:03 pm to nicholastiger
That season was almost 50 years ago
All that mattered after year 11 was the sports almanac, and we're in.
Concern yourself about what the younglings will think about 2020 in 50 years. Not a great outcome for LSU fans

All that mattered after year 11 was the sports almanac, and we're in.
Concern yourself about what the younglings will think about 2020 in 50 years. Not a great outcome for LSU fans
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:03 pm to Bob the Ogre
It bothers you so much.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:06 pm to Bob the Ogre
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You notice no Tennessee fans ran in here, "we does too done it so have 6" We don't care.
You sidewalk fan Bammer get all defensive. It means everything in your worthless lives.
WTF does it matter to you bandwagon riders that never attended Bammer? You have never stepped foot into a classroom there.
"WE DO TOO HAVE 18!!!"
No, you don't.
You still want to pay for me to beat you up?

Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:09 pm to Bob the Ogre
1961 - AP & UPI
1964 - AP & UPI
1965 - AP
1973 - UPI
1978 - AP
1979 - AP & UPI
1992 - AP & Coaches
2009 - AP & BCS
2011 - AP & BCS
2012 - AP & BCS
2015 - CFP
2017 - CFP
2020 - CFP
Which of these are incorrect? No matter the circumstance, no matter what the scenarios were, Alabama did nothing wrong. The media and coaches made the selections.
You can dismiss 1964, 1973, 1978 all you want. What matters is they received trophies from the major selectors.
1964 - AP & UPI
1965 - AP
1973 - UPI
1978 - AP
1979 - AP & UPI
1992 - AP & Coaches
2009 - AP & BCS
2011 - AP & BCS
2012 - AP & BCS
2015 - CFP
2017 - CFP
2020 - CFP
Which of these are incorrect? No matter the circumstance, no matter what the scenarios were, Alabama did nothing wrong. The media and coaches made the selections.
You can dismiss 1964, 1973, 1978 all you want. What matters is they received trophies from the major selectors.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:33 pm to Oklahomey
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1973 - UPI
1978 - AP
1973 beat on the field by Notre Dame AFTER both were given the title.
Say that slowly. BEAT ON THE FIELD.
1978 - See comment above.
Here...
1961 National Championship- a legitimate NC. .
1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:34 pm to captdalton
quote:No, it bothers you when people call BS on 18.
It bothers you so much.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:41 pm to 3down10
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You still want to pay for me to beat you up?
Say what? Where did that come from? Pissed you off, didn't I? "I'LL BEAT YOU UP!"

Well, we have a forum tough guy. When would like to give that a try? You inbred idiot. Don't bite off something you can't chew.

"He said we didn't have 18. I'll beat him up." LMFAO!!!!
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:50 pm to Bob the Ogre
"BY GOD...IMMA GONNA BEAT SOMEBODY UP! THEY SAID A SCHOOL I NEVER ATTENDED DIDN'T HAVE 18 CHAMPIONSHIPS!"
Damn at the inbred stupidity! You have to see it to believe it.

Damn at the inbred stupidity! You have to see it to believe it.



Posted on 8/27/24 at 10:59 pm to Bob the Ogre
Yes, Notre Dame defeated Alabama in the 1974 Sugar Bowl to secure the AP title. Alabama was awarded the UPI crown while also undefeated since the selection was made before the bowl. Notre Dame and Alabama both had undefeated 1973 national championship seasons.
Alabama was also an undefeated 1964 national champion prior to the bowl loss.
Alabama tried not to win the 1965 AP title but Michigan State, Arkansas, Nebraska lost their bowls. Alabama won their bowl. Alabama secured the AP as a result. Michigan State secured the UPI before the bowl loss.
1978 is self-explanatory. Yes, we all know USC beat Alabama in the regular season. USC later lost while Alabama recovered and won out. Alabama also had the benefit of defeating the #1 team in a bowl game. Alabama and USC are co-national champions.
Just because a team has a better record than another team doesn’t guarantee a national championship.
1942 - Ohio State went 9-1 and Georgia went 11-1. Buckeyes won the AP.
1952 - Michigan State went 9-0 and Georgia Tech went 12-0. Spartans won the AP and UPI.
1966 - Notre Dame purposely played for a tie in their last game against Michigan State to end the year 9-0-1 to secure the consensus national title. Alabama went 11-0.
Alabama was also an undefeated 1964 national champion prior to the bowl loss.
Alabama tried not to win the 1965 AP title but Michigan State, Arkansas, Nebraska lost their bowls. Alabama won their bowl. Alabama secured the AP as a result. Michigan State secured the UPI before the bowl loss.
1978 is self-explanatory. Yes, we all know USC beat Alabama in the regular season. USC later lost while Alabama recovered and won out. Alabama also had the benefit of defeating the #1 team in a bowl game. Alabama and USC are co-national champions.
Just because a team has a better record than another team doesn’t guarantee a national championship.
1942 - Ohio State went 9-1 and Georgia went 11-1. Buckeyes won the AP.
1952 - Michigan State went 9-0 and Georgia Tech went 12-0. Spartans won the AP and UPI.
1966 - Notre Dame purposely played for a tie in their last game against Michigan State to end the year 9-0-1 to secure the consensus national title. Alabama went 11-0.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:10 pm to Gunga Din
No, it really isn’t. They beat them head to head on the road.
SC natty.
SC natty.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:11 pm to Oklahomey
quote:You can dick ride Bammer all you want.
Oklahomey
Those of us who have been around the SEC all of our life know better. You are the first non-Bammer I have ever seen that cared.
It's like the idiot that said, "Tennessee doesn't have have 6." So? We don't give a shite. No one will argue with you about it.
We only point out to Bammers that they don't have 18, because they go apeshit. The worst ones are like the punk idiot in talking about beating up people. That POS never even attended Bama.
"BY GOD...THEY IS A SAYIN' WE DON"T HAVE 18. IMMA GONNA FIGHT SOMEBODY!"
Inbred bunch of bandwagon riding idiots. They are a joke.



Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:56 pm to Bob the Ogre
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Bob the Ogre
Your reply is one of the dumbest posts I have ever read on the Rant, and that's saying something.

Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:07 am to nicholastiger
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That one has to sting a little to Bama fans
Your right. It does. But what makes it better is knowing we won the NC that year in AP Poll. In 1978, that's all that matters

Btw, did LSU go (as usual) 8-4? Something tells me around that time, for LSU that was a pretty good year! Congrats

Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:08 am to Bama Bird
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2020 ... Not a great outcome for LSU fans

That's hitting below the belt

Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:51 am to Bob the Ogre
How is it that I’m “dick” riding Alabama when I’ve posted known facts of things that legit happened? I’ll educate you all day on the history of college football national championships. I know the subject well.
You also seem worked up that if you don’t actually attend the university you cheer for then you have no point in arguing anything. That is some piss poor logic. You’re reaching bad. One could easily be born into it without attending it. That happens everywhere.
You just can’t stand the fact Alabama has the hardware to prove their history. I don’t recognize 18 because I don’t count prior to 1936. That’s just me though. But it doesn’t change since 1936 that Alabama STILL leads the country with 13 nationally recognized titles and this isn’t counting the school claimed 1941 title.
It appears you’re a Tennessee fan. The Vols make a claim for six (1938,1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, 1998).
1938 you have a legit case and the Vols received various other selectors. But TCU also went undefeated and happened to receive the AP. Oh well.
1940, like many others, went undefeated in the regular season. Vols finished 10-0, lost to BC in bowl (BC finished 11-0), and Minnesota won the AP crown going 8-0.
1950 is a legit case. Kentucky has one loss, defeats AP and UPI champion Oklahoma in Sugar Bowl, and claims the national title. Tennessee has one loss and handed Kentucky its only loss.
1951 Vols win AP and UPI before bowl loss to Maryland. GT finished 10-0-1 before bowl win. Somehow the Vols and Jackets don’t play each other. Should GT be the champ over Tennessee because of better record? Perhaps, but the vote was decided prior to the bowls.
1967 - seriously? Two losses.
1998 - no debate. Consensus National Championship.
Bonus - programs to lose bowl game after being named National Champion by one or both major poll selectors:
1950 Oklahoma - AP and UPI
1951 Tennessee - AP and UPI
1953 Maryland - AP and UPI
1960 Minnesota - AP and UPI
1964 Alabama - AP and UPI
1965 Michigan State - UPI
1970 Texas - UPI
1973 Alabama - UPI
You also seem worked up that if you don’t actually attend the university you cheer for then you have no point in arguing anything. That is some piss poor logic. You’re reaching bad. One could easily be born into it without attending it. That happens everywhere.
You just can’t stand the fact Alabama has the hardware to prove their history. I don’t recognize 18 because I don’t count prior to 1936. That’s just me though. But it doesn’t change since 1936 that Alabama STILL leads the country with 13 nationally recognized titles and this isn’t counting the school claimed 1941 title.
It appears you’re a Tennessee fan. The Vols make a claim for six (1938,1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, 1998).
1938 you have a legit case and the Vols received various other selectors. But TCU also went undefeated and happened to receive the AP. Oh well.
1940, like many others, went undefeated in the regular season. Vols finished 10-0, lost to BC in bowl (BC finished 11-0), and Minnesota won the AP crown going 8-0.
1950 is a legit case. Kentucky has one loss, defeats AP and UPI champion Oklahoma in Sugar Bowl, and claims the national title. Tennessee has one loss and handed Kentucky its only loss.
1951 Vols win AP and UPI before bowl loss to Maryland. GT finished 10-0-1 before bowl win. Somehow the Vols and Jackets don’t play each other. Should GT be the champ over Tennessee because of better record? Perhaps, but the vote was decided prior to the bowls.
1967 - seriously? Two losses.
1998 - no debate. Consensus National Championship.
Bonus - programs to lose bowl game after being named National Champion by one or both major poll selectors:
1950 Oklahoma - AP and UPI
1951 Tennessee - AP and UPI
1953 Maryland - AP and UPI
1960 Minnesota - AP and UPI
1964 Alabama - AP and UPI
1965 Michigan State - UPI
1970 Texas - UPI
1973 Alabama - UPI
Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:35 am to Oklahomey
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How is it that I’m “dick” riding Alabama when I’ve posted known facts of things that legit happened? I’ll educate you all day on the history of college football national championships. I know the subject well.
People hate what they fear. As the second most accomplished team in our conference, Sooners will soon learn how many ranters will be hating on your trophy case. Starting with "Chickens" perpetual running thread, "How many championships does ALABAMA really have."
Did I mention that people hate what they fear?
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