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re: Updyke evidence or proof he poisoned the trees
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:09 am to auzach91
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:09 am to auzach91
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auzach91
Updyke evidence or proof he poisoned the trees
his confession and the fact they found the exact poison in the tree, like a previous poster said. thats all theyll need
I thought it was more of an OJ situation. If I had poisoned the trees then this is how I would have done it.
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Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:11 am to arwicklu
can't convict on his confession alone. If there isn't any more evidence he will walk free with a decent lawyer and a fair trial.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:14 am to BamaChick
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:16 am to Alahunter
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:16 am to oklahogjr
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Updyke evidence or proof he poisoned the trees
can't convict on his confession alone. If there isn't any more evidence he will walk free with a decent lawyer and a fair trial.
Funny how that works.
Did you do it?
Yes.
Plea?
Not Guilty.
Verdict...
Not guilty.
Seems fair.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:17 am to arwicklu
The guy should be convicted just for being a Finebaum caller.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:17 am to oklahogjr
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can't convict on his confession alone
I've seen people get convicted with far less evidence than a confession.
There's been people convicted of killing a person without even finding that person's body.
This post was edited on 4/22/11 at 12:18 am
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:18 am to arwicklu
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Funny how that works.
Did you do it?
Yes.
Plea?
Not Guilty.
Verdict...
Not guilty.
Seems fair.
Well especially with a crime like this, there is a lot of fame and attention associated with it. Maybe he heard from a friend and decided to take credit for it while his friend gets off scott free. This tends to happen during serial killer cases and other high profile crimes.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 12:26 am to oklahogjr
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Well especially with a crime like this, there is a lot of fame and attention associated with it. Maybe he heard from a friend and decided to take credit for it while his friend gets off scott free. This tends to happen during serial killer cases and other high profile crimes.
I get it, however fair and our legal system are not always the same things. Good lawyers can work magic.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:10 am to Alahunter
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, him saying something and no proof he was the one that put it there is all that's needed in a court of law, but 4 players admitting to taking money on the plains isn't enough evidence to the NCAA. Gotcha.
Late to this argument, but you guys are being stupid about this.
Admittance of action + evidence that said action takes place does not equal admittance of action without evidence of said action.
Updyke admitted he poisoned tree with spike 80 and tree was found poisoned with spike 80. Players said they were paid but have not been able to say who paid them or reveal any evidence of being paid. If any of you see those to scenarios as equal, you are a fricking idiot.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:14 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Updyke admitted he poisoned tree with spike 80 and tree was found poisoned with spike 80. Players said they were paid but have not been able to say who paid them or reveal any evidence of being paid. If any of you see those to scenarios as equal, you are a fricking idiot.
One of the players said they had him change majors, etc and Auburn recently got busted for handing out grades. It isn't like there is no evidence.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:21 am to arwicklu
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One of the players said they had him change majors, etc and Auburn recently got busted for handing out grades. It isn't like there is no evidence.
So now allegedly making him change his major is equal to evidence of paying players???
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:24 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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So now allegedly making him change his major is equal to evidence of paying players???
The academic fraud was an allegation too.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:27 am to arwicklu
Well that should be easy to prove. Why hasn't anything been done regarding it yet?
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:29 am to auzach91
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Updyke evidence or proof he poisoned the trees
Well that should be easy to prove. Why hasn't anything been done regarding it yet?
Why hasn't Updyke been convicted yet?
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:29 am to arwicklu
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The academic fraud was an allegation too.
Thats fine, and was an issue with the previous staff that needed to be addressed and was. But at no point is that problem the same as paying players. Just because we had that problem in the past, doesn't mean that we paid players and it still doesn't mean that Ramsey was forced to change his major. Even if he was, thats not that big of a deal to be honest. Regardless, until somebody can provide a single scrap of proof that one of our players got paid, all of it is still bullshite.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:32 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Thats fine, and was an issue with the previous staff that needed to be addressed and was. But at no point is that problem the same as paying players. Just because we had that problem in the past, doesn't mean that we paid players and it still doesn't mean that Ramsey was forced to change his major. Even if he was, thats not that big of a deal to be honest. Regardless, until somebody can provide a single scrap of proof that one of our players got paid, all of it is still bullshite.
There is no proof Updyke did it either. But I bet he did.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:35 am to arwicklu
You really aren't getting this. Admitting to doing something the exact way that it happened, and the fact that it is able to be proven that that is how it was done, is proof in a court of law.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:40 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Updyke evidence or proof he poisoned the trees
You really aren't getting this. Admitting to doing something the exact way that it happened, and the fact that it is able to be proven that that is how it was done, is proof in a court of law.
I get it. I'm just saying the Auburn players confessed too and you say well it doesn't count.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 1:42 am to arwicklu
yes, the confessed, but as of now their confession would be equal to Updyke saying he poisoned the tree, but no poison has yet to be found in the trees.
This post was edited on 4/22/11 at 1:43 am
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