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re: UPDATE:[Has been removed from roof] Arkansas student on top of parking garage
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:07 pm to MaroonNation
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:07 pm to MaroonNation
Ready to leave the top or ready to leave the Earth?
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:07 pm to Jon Ham
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Jon Hamm
You're exactly right. Once you've dealt with someone you care for that has a psychiatric illness, you realize that there are times that they really cannot help themselves.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:08 pm to OSqueal
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I know. Seems weird. Just like its illegal to get high but not illegal to be high......
Kind of weird but I think its just a scare tactic so that someone thinking about suicide thinks that if they fail in the attempt that they will be punished. Maybe if someone already doubts themselves in everything that they will doubt that they will pull it off successfully.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:09 pm to heartbreakTiger
I remember my first beer.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:12 pm to SmackoverHawg
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You're exactly right. Once you've dealt with someone you care for that has a psychiatric illness, you realize that there are times that they really cannot help themselves.
Really? You honestly believe this?
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:12 pm to Jon Ham
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Jon Ham
Yes, it really makes you think. I had no experience with mental illness before that. His problem was that when he was in a hypomanic phase, he felt great and thought nothing was wrong with him, that he knew more than the doctor. So he wouldn't take his meds, which caused all kinds of problems. It was really scary. Eventually, I reached a point where I realized he would never get better as long as I was there to pick up the pieces - he manipulated me too easily, and I fell for it thinking I was helping him. You can't help someone that won't help themselves. It was a tough lesson to learn, but I know leaving was the right thing to do.
I have a lot of compassion for people who have issues like that. It truly is a chemical imbalance, and they need both medication and therapy to control it. I know lots of people manage bipolar disorder - but many don't. I don't think I'd get involved with someone that had it again.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:13 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Once you've dealt with someone you care for that has a psychiatric illness, you realize that there are times that they really cannot help themselves.
This is true, but people should also realize how big of a mistake it is to marry someone who isn't stable.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:13 pm to Porky
Doctor's currently trying to find the right meds for her..
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:13 pm to sms151t
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You honestly believe this?
This isn't a matter of opinion. If you don't believe that, you're wrong.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:14 pm to Stanky Legg
Tell me then who is in control of choices? I promise you I know what I'm talking about on this one.
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:15 pm to sms151t
Yes. With a true psychiatric illness, the person can do things that they would never do otherwise. Unfortunately, too many have used this as a cop out for their bad behavior.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:15 pm to SmackoverHawg
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You're exactly right. Once you've dealt with someone you care for that has a psychiatric illness, you realize that there are times that they really cannot help themselves.
I grew up in the 70's and 80's with a mother that was later diagnosed with paranoid schitzo and bi polar. Untreated a person goes from one emotion to another and think shite going on that's not. Not always safe for the person...
ETA: She is also manic despesive....... makes for great Christmas'
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:16 pm to Jon Ham
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Doctor's currently trying to find the right meds for her..
Good. Lithium is the most common but blood levels have to be closely monitored.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:16 pm to sms151t
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Really? You honestly believe this?
Hey, SMS - and yes, I honestly believe this. Chemical imbalances can only be treated by medication, and those require constant monitoring. They occasionally have to be changed, and when they reach that point, the person cycles out of control. They can't help the condition they have.
They can choose to take medication or not - but it's not always a perfect solution.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:17 pm to Porky
Why dont they put those big air pillows on the ground every where so if he does jump, nothing happens? They've had hours to do it.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:18 pm to Porky
something serious like that would be a deal breaker for me.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:19 pm to sms151t
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Tell me then who is in control of choices?
They control their choices. The problem is, they are unable to think logically and rationally.
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I promise you I know what I'm talking about on this one.
Unless you're a psychiatrist, which I seriously doubt, you don't.
If you haven't lived with or been close to a manic depressive, you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:19 pm to sms151t
Wow. It must really upset your narrow worldview to consider that other people may at times need help and may not make decisions that are sane or productive.
Thanks for posting this. Tells me all I need to know.
Thanks for posting this. Tells me all I need to know.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:19 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Why dont they put those big air pillows on the ground every where so if he does jump, nothing happens? They've had hours to do it.
Because he could move if he does decide to jump or intentially overjump They generally only work when the people are trying to hit it
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