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re: Updated: The Elephant, The Midget, and the Wardrobe---KEEP DISCUSSION HERE***
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:22 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:22 pm to northshorebamaman
So, is there a chance that Bama will have to vacate the 09 championship, along with all games corresponding with it?
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Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:22 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Yeah, I guess that seems reasonable. To be honest, I didn't even know how one would go about getting one, so it just naturally raised some red flags in my head 
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:23 pm to NYCAuburn
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I am pretty sure the bylaw posted said that schools are not allowed to provide any clothing that is not athletic related, such as suits for pre game
It is against the rules to provide the suits, but there are grants and assistance in place to assist those in need to purchase one.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:23 pm to bamasgot13
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bamasgot13
the whole cam thing was a loophole, hence why they passed legislation in january to fix it
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:23 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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y pulling the gate they maximize the speed with which they can fit every student. By doing this they decrease the amount of time before they can accommodate their walk in customers. Standard practice for large groups in a retail setting.
Sure, turn away customers for what most posters have said are basically "discounted contract sales." Makes a lot of business sense to do that!
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:23 pm to Lg
At the most this story is an eligibility issue, unless it can be proven UA knew it was going on and did not adequately respond. Now ineligible players can have an impact on past seasons if they played in games, but that is a long way down the road
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:23 pm to Lg
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Who provides the uniforms teams wear? Nike, Under Armour, who?
The school provideds its players with jerseys that the school purchases from the manufacturer.
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So if a university wants their kids to dress nice, which some wouldn't be able to afford, what would be the problem?
Dressing nice for some function is volutary...wearing a jersey is not.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:24 pm to The Spleen
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It is against the rules to provide the suits, but there are grants and assistance in place to assist those in need to purchase one.
Thanks. That answers my question.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:24 pm to WDE24
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I'm not sure about Smith, but weren't there media reports prior to Bama declaring the athletes ineligible
I think the declaration of ineligibility led to the reports. I know there were zero media reports in advance of compliance/UA declaring 5 players - including 3 starters - ineligible due to the textbook stuff.
My only point is that our recent history is do it right and do it early. Our past history was find a broom & lift the rug.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:24 pm to HailToTheChiz
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the whole cam thing was a loophole, hence why they passed legislation in january to fix it
Nothing has been passed to fix the loophole they described Cam as getting through.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:25 pm to Alahunter
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Alahunter
i thought it was passed, but they at least introduced something in january because i remember them making statements about it
and no im not looking it up
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:26 pm to bamasgot13
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circumstantial got you killed by ncaa years ago. evidently it doesn't any more.
The AJC said they had nothing concrete less than a month ago but Tech got killed for it.
Circumstantial is more than enough apparently.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:26 pm to TTsTowel
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TTsTowel
NOTHING has been passed.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:26 pm to parkjas2001
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they cannot get any treatment that regular students cant get. they arent rock stars. they are students that happen to play football
Wrong
actually that is spot on
Athletes get many things within the university that is not afforded normal students. No rules against it. There are rules that cover some areas but not everything.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:26 pm to TTsTowel
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JHokanson: NCAA seeks to expand definition of "agents", include third party influences, family members
Something's wrong here...
Uh oh, bitly couldn't find a link for the bitly URL you clicked.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:26 pm to TTsTowel
Well, that did not work out very well. Dang Thunderbolt.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:27 pm to bona fide
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within the university
that is the key phrase
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:27 pm to northshorebamaman
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northshorebamaman
Here are the two rules that might pertain to what you are refering and the game worn stuff
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An institution may not provide to student-athletes team travel outfits, blazers or
other items of clothing that are not sports-related practice or competition apparel.
Bylaw 16.8.2.1
Retention of Athletics Apparel and Equipment
NCAA member institutions should note that in accordance with Bylaw 16.12.1.8,
a student-athlete may retain athletics apparel items (not equipment) at the end of
the individual's collegiate participation. Used equipment may be purchased by
the student-athlete on the same cost basis as any other individual interested in
purchasing such equipment. It should be noted, however, that the NCAA
Administrative Committee, during its October 23, 1986, meeting, confirmed that
apparel items that are not reusable by other team members in subsequent
seasons (subject to the discretion of the institution) could be considered the
property of the involved student-athlete.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:27 pm to Alahunter
I never said it had been.
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