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re: Unpopular Opinion: Oklahoma has the best chance to win playoffs

Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:08 am to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:08 am to
If you don't watch the games, just say so.

UGA didn't start the Kentucky game balanced and the game was close for about a quarter and a half. We open up the playbook on 1st down and boat race them. It is the second time I have posted this. Most UF reading levels can get this the second time.

Kerryon Johnson is great. But he doesn't play defense. With the balanced approach on 1st downs, Fromm was 8 for 9 completions for 119 yards and a touchdown in the first half (before a defense can get worn down).

Just stop posting when you can't pretend to know more about a team than its own fans.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
14115 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:11 am to
You threw 14 passes in that game and ran the ball 44 times. That's "opening up the playbook"?
Posted by taylorkeeton
Member since Sep 2013
215 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:12 am to
Aren’t you a criminal if you run from the cops...? Oh wait, no. That makes you a choir boy. I forgot
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
14115 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:14 am to
Keep trying. Baker Mayfield isn't a "thug" by any stretch of the imagination. That's just histrionic lunacy.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11205 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:23 am to
You are going to be really butt hurt when we throw the ball less than 20 times and beat you by three touchdowns...
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:25 am to
quote:

You threw 14 passes in that game and ran the ball 44 times. That's "opening up the playbook"?


9 straight runs on first down. We are winning 7-3.

The next 4 first downs are pass and we are winning 21-6.

Yes. We opened the playbook.

After that lead, we ran the ball 25 times to 2 passes for the remainder of the game.

Fromm is efficient on any down (2nd in the country in 3rd down efficiency). But the offensive line isn't efficient in 3rd and long. Passing on 1st down makes us a dangerous offense against playoff calibre teams (see the Auburn rematch).
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:26 am to
None of what you're saying is relevant. Kentucky is not an important game. Here are the fricking statistics:

Fromm throws 11 completions a game.

Period. His attempts aren't that much more.

https://www.seccountry.com/sec/advanced-stats-say-sec-east-is-power-5s-worst-division

quote:

Kerryon Johnson is great. But he doesn't play defense.


Goddamn, this is such a retarded response.

Kerryon keeps Auburn's offense on the field exponentionally longer, and that means that your offense is less productive.

Auburn vs UGA fist game Yards: 167 (32 touches)
First downs: 25
Time of Possession: 33:03.

Auburn vs. UGA second game Yards: 47 yards (only 13 touches)
First downs: 18
Time of Possession: 26:58.

He was a pivotal part of their offense and the best player in the SEC when healthy, and to watch you guys stupidly thump your chests like you made some incredible changes in scheme that helped you win is laughable.

You guys lucked out, like much of the year that your schedule was weak and that you got a second chance to play a superior team without their best player.
Posted by taylorkeeton
Member since Sep 2013
215 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:28 am to
Keep trying? I don’t have to? The video speaks for itself lol
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 12:29 am
Posted by CalDawg
Member since Aug 2016
1591 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:28 am to
TOSU should've won.

All this talk about OU's prolific offense & it was 3-3 at the half. OU fumbled twice & missed a FG. Talk about slow start. And like you said, Buckeyes were leading towards the end of the 3Q. Tough to win though when Barrett goes 19 of 35.

Hell, OU ain't nothing special. They barely beat Baylor, Texas and KState. Had the worst loss in school history @Home to Iowa State. Lol. GA's D > OU's D. Fact. GA's Run Game > any of OU's reg season opponents. Fact.

GA gonna make Heisman Mayfield into Heisman Gino Torretta 2.0 ('93 Sugar Bowl).
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:35 am to
quote:

None of what you're saying is relevant. Kentucky is not an important game. Here are the fricking statistics:


Kentucky is relevant in that it was after the first Auburn game (I think we ran the ball on first down 12 straight times in that first Auburb game).

quote:

Kerryon keeps Auburn's offense on the field exponentionally longer, and that means that your offense is less productive.


You don't understand the difference between efficient and productive. But what else is new when your closet is full of jorts.
Fromm was efficient against Auburns defense right when the rematch started. That keeps Auburns offense off the field. And like I said, Johnson doesn't play defense. The outcome of the UGA offense wasn't dependent on whether Auburn held the ball or not. We were good when we had the ball. I will take efficient every Saturday of the year. When we play running teams like Tech and Auburn every season, we have to be efficient.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:45 am to
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The outcome of the UGA offense wasn't dependent on whether Auburn held the ball or not.


You guys are so, so delusional and downright don't understand football at a fundamental level.

Kerryon touching the ball 13 times vs. 32 times absolutely changes the outcome of a game.

You guys were more productive in the beginning of the game, but Auburn's inability to run the ball absolutely inhibited their offense.

It absolutely does change the way the game is played when you lose over 250 yards of offense, 6 minutes of TOP and your star player gets almost 20 touches less.

You thick frick.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 12:46 am
Posted by Go_Dawgs
Member since Nov 2012
1021 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:58 am to
What does it mater?

You’re using statistical analysis of probabilities and averages to say “If KJ played - UGA loses because of stats alone.”

In the same light it’s easy to say UGA still wins based on efficiency and adjustments.

Hell, their D-line owned us in the first game but saw a lot of Auburn linemen on their backs in the SECCG.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 1:05 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:00 am to
quote:

You guys were more productive in the beginning of the game, but Auburn's inability to run the ball absolutely inhibited their offense.


You jump in on a conversation about Fromm (the UGA offense) and continue on about the Auburn offense as if it affects efficiency for UGA.

UGA had 5 first downs in the first half for 101 yards in the first game.

The rematch had 9 first downs for 161 yards for UGA.

And you want to continue on about how Kerryon Johnson affected the UGA's offensive efficiency more than the fact that UGA didn't run the ball on every single damn first down again like they did the first time around?

Google the difference between efficiency and productivity before you decide to add more to the conversation. UGA converting it's own first downs when it has the ball is irrelevant to the auburn offensive personnel.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:06 am to
quote:

What does it mater?



What does it matter that the best player in the SEC wasn't playing for a very important game? Oh, Gee, maybe it matters about 40 points and 488 yards.

I gotta check out of the thread if you guys are actually arguing that Kerryon didn't matter because you're either drunk and have no idea what you're talking about, or you're retarded.

Kerryon playing at 100% absolutely changes the face of the game and we absolutely cannot talk intelligently if this axiom isn't acknowledged.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:35 am to
quote:

No one in America can name 1 player on Georgia

Nick Chubb.

Outside of the clown you got at QB, I can't name any other Oklahoma player.
Posted by CoalKat
Kentucky
Member since Dec 2017
12 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:45 am to
We will see. When you line up all the stats and odds are meaningless. All that matters is what happens in the next 60 minutes.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:53 am to
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I gotta check out of the thread if you guys are actually arguing that Kerryon didn't matter because you're either drunk and have no idea what you're talking about, or you're retarded.

Yeah... someone might actually be drunk, retarded, or clueless. If you look hard enough and can't find them, you might find the answer in a mirror.

Better playcalling for UGA on the offensive side of the ball along with better play from the OL led to a more successful outing.

No one is arguing that W/L had no relationship to KJ's status that I can tell... if you want to somehow extrapolate that because their offense sucked their defense somehow sucked as well, then why was this not a valid excuse in the prior matchup when we struggled to move the ball? Regardless of the reason for the offensive struggles, we were told for weeks that it was simply because their OL dominated at the LOS, not because our defense was tired. Even if you eliminate the big run from Swift late in the game, we still more than tripled our YPC running the ball from the first matchup (quadrupled if included). Less predictable playcalling is a wondrous thing... But by all means... continue to cling to some desperate hope that UGA is a mirage and that great success awaits you with Mullen's upcoming classes full of 2-3* athletes. How's that Corral commitment holding up?

Ultimately, no one is saying that Kerryon playing doesn't change the outcome of the game... but what it doesn't do is change what UGA does on the offensive side of the ball... Kerryon doesn't play defense. This can't be disputed. We didn't turn the ball over this time... they did... twice. If you want to blame Kerryon's fumble on his injury, by all means go for it... you just look stupid.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 3:16 am to
quote:

On the surface yes,

Watch big 12 defenses though, They have ZERO discipline, no agility to cover and when's the last time u heard of a great pass rusher from that conference? Okies offense is good but no matter who they play, Mayfield will see a defensive he has never seen the likes of this season.


Von Miller.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 4:36 am to
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Kerryon doesn't play defense.


You guys are killin' me by saying this because it's ignoring the obvious problem.

Georgia didn't do shite for a whole 3 quarters -- the game was 7 - 13.

The missed production from Kerryon absolutely would have improved Auburn's odds in the first three quarters.

There was no scheme change! Auburn moved the ball and couldn't punch it into the end zone because their best goddamn player was hurt.

frick you guys are so delusional. 13 - 7 going into the fourth quarter and you think KB doesn't change any point of the game from TOP, First Downs and the general flow of their offense.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 4:40 am to
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I'm interested in seeing which is the more dominant force. Chokelehoma or Clemsoning


There are other forces at play:

Saban-Bama sugar bowl
The curse of UGA

Should be interesting games.
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