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re: UGA vs USCe on paper
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:51 pm to scrooster
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:51 pm to scrooster
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Lotta Georgia boys, lotta SC boys that were recruited by the other big boys in the league. Lotta highly recruited talented on our roster along the DLine.
That's true for Georgia too. Actually more so (except for the SC boys part). I'm going to go ahead and assume that your line with Clowney, Quarles, Taylor, Sutton, Ingram and co. was most likely more deep and talented than this one.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:55 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Yes it is. It's a high pressure in-state rivalry game that was started under less than ideal circumstances with Murray having just gone down. UGA fans buying season tickets is a symptom of the intensity of the rivalry and the apathy of Tech fans to their other games. Tech fans are far from apathetic about the UGA game. Trivializing that experience is dumb.
I'm not going to beat a dead horse here, but I grew up in Georgia. I'm very familiar with UGA/GT. That game has lost an awful lot of intensity in the last 15 years. Richt has a lot to do with that, as does O'Leary leaving GT.
Forgive me if I'm not terribly impressed with a "road" win at Bobby Dodd, when half the 45k were wearing red and barking. You'll likely trivialize Thompson's accomplishments, as well.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:57 pm to RoyalAir
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You'll likely trivialize Thompson's accomplishments, as well.
I've done no such thing
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:04 pm to Crowknowsbest
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That's true for Georgia too. Actually more so (except for the SC boys part). I'm going to go ahead and assume that your line with Clowney, Quarles, Taylor, Sutton, Ingram and co. was most likely more deep and talented than this one.
You know what that does right ... it makes an arse outta u and me.
What I think you may be failing to understand, and you're doing it honestly because you are not a fan of SCAR, is that in terms of pure talent, this year's line is by far our deepest and most talented.
More importantly, this year's line has something called chemistry. No big stars, just a lot of talent. No egos, just the motivation to prove to everyone that Clowney was not what made them tick.
This line is blowing-up our offense in practice. This line is mean from what I hear. This DLine is quiet, doesn't talk a lot, but just takes care of business on the field and in the weight room.
I do believe you're going to be in for a bit of a shock when you see it against your Dawgs in a month or so.
Better yet, watch the A&M game ... you'll get a preview of what I'm trying to explain and it might change your idea that y'all are going to walk in here and run over SCAR.
As good as Clowney was, he was a bit of a distraction last year. As good as Quarles was, he was not well liked by his teammates. As good as Sutton was, or could have been ... well, he never lived-up to the hype.
The year you're talking about, Ingram's last year, Clowney and Quarles were freshmen. We struggled inside at times, whereas this year we have a plethora of DT talent.
We'll just have to wait and see I suppose.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:06 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Maybe I'm just jaded by y'all's pass defense being dogshit against UGA, but returning Williams, Marcus, and Golightly just doesn't seem to hold much weight.
Maybe, we gave up 1 play that game that was worth over 25% of Murray's production that game. What you might also be neglecting to look at is the other games that resulted in out 12 ranked nationally pass defense.
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You still don't have any corners.
Yes we do, we moved B. Williams over and e have some RS Sophs and FR. They'll be better than whatever preseason hype CB's UGA can put out.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:07 pm to scrooster
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What I think you may be failing to understand, and you're doing it honestly because you are not a fan of SCAR, is that in terms of pure talent, this year's line is by far our deepest and most talented.
More importantly, this year's line has something called chemistry. No big stars, just a lot of talent. No egos, just the motivation to prove to everyone that Clowney was not what made them tick.
This line is blowing-up our offense in practice. This line is mean from what I hear. This DLine is quiet, doesn't talk a lot, but just takes care of business on the field and in the weight room.
I do believe you're going to be in for a bit of a shock when you see it against your Dawgs in a month or so.
Better yet, watch the A&M game ... you'll get a preview of what I'm trying to explain and it might change your idea that y'all are going to walk in here and run over SCAR.
As good as Clowney was, he was a bit of a distraction last year. As good as Quarles was, he was not well liked by his teammates. As good as Sutton was, or could have been ... well, he never lived-up to the hype.
The year you're talking about, Ingram's last year, Clowney and Quarles were freshmen. We struggled inside at times, whereas this year we have a plethora of DT talent.
You may be right, but this is standard fall camp sunshine-pumping practice report talk Clowney is the most talented player in school history. That's most likely not replaced by chemistry, but you're right that I shouldn't assume, which is basically what I was just telling CIYE not to do.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:10 pm to CockInYourEar
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Yes we do, we moved B. Williams over
No you don't. You have a safety that you moved to corner. The positions are a lot different.
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e have some RS Sophs and FR.
so do we
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They'll be better than whatever preseason hype CB's UGA can put out.
you have no way of knowing that
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:13 pm to CockInYourEar
quote:So that pass doesn't count or something?
Maybe, we gave up 1 play that game that was worth over 25% of Murray's production that game. What you might also be neglecting to look at is the other games that resulted in out 12 ranked nationally pass defense.
What other prolific passers did USC face?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:14 pm to Crowknowsbest
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you have no way of knowing that
Yes I do. Past performance is a good indicator of future performance. SC has had a better Pass Defense for 4 years, our coaches do a better job.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:15 pm to CockInYourEar
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Past performance is a good indicator of future performance.
Auburn, for example
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our coaches do a better job.
we have new defensive coaches. Maybe they'll do a better job.
You have no basis for this claim.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:16 pm to CockInYourEar
quote:And we were under a completely different defensive coaching staff. The guy we have now specializes in DB's and was a part of 2 national championship teams.
SC has had a better Pass Defense for 4 years, our coaches do a better job.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:17 pm to dhuck20
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part of 2 national championship teams.
actually the last 3
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:21 pm to dhuck20
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And we were under a completely different defensive coaching staff. The guy we have now specializes in DB's and was a part of 2 national championship teams
Should be interesting then ... given that our WR coach is part of a stable staff and he's been here ten years now. Oh, and he too has two national championship rings ... both as a WR coach.
Wait, was your guy a player or a coach?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:25 pm to scrooster
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Wait, was your guy a player or a coach?
Jeremy Pruitt was the DB coach at Alabama in 2011 and 2012 and the DB coach and Defensive Coordinator at FSU last season. He is now the DB coach and DC at UGA.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:30 pm to CockInYourEar
SC may beat us at WB, but if they don't, there's gonna be some serious crow eatin' goin on. Holy shite.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:32 pm to Crowknowsbest
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You have no basis for this claim.
Again, yes I do. Our coaches have succeeded here, against this conference. For years UGA fans talked about Grantham and his greatness, until the reality of his steady decline was too much and they were happy he bolted for Louisville.
Also, I'm very familiar with Pruitt. He was the King of Defenses against the ACC, which is a lot like being a championship level knitter, nobody cares. Also I saw Pruitt 1st hand when Garcia/SC torched his Bama defense in '10.
I saw Grantham, I've seen Pruitt, why can't y'all?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:34 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Jeremy Pruitt was the DB coach at Alabama in 2011 and 2012 and the DB coach and Defensive Coordinator at FSU last season. He is now the DB coach and DC at UGA.
He was the DB for Bama in '10.
Garcia went 17-20 for 201 yds, with 3 TD's.
I've seen Pruitt.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:36 pm to CockInYourEar
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Also I saw Pruitt 1st hand when Garcia/SC torched his Bama defense in '10.
So you've seen enough in one game in his first year as a DB coach in USCe's QB's career game to make the judgement that he sucks? I suggest you take your own advice about small sample sizes that you gave me when I said your secondary players aren't all that. You know, how all the other games count too.
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For years UGA fans talked about Grantham and his greatness,
Link? He was a pariah starting post 2012, after his third season. That's a pretty quick cycle.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:38 pm to Crowknowsbest
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So you've seen enough in one game in his first year as a DB coach in USCe's QB's career game to make the judgement that he sucks? I suggest you take your own advice about small sample sizes that you gave me when I said your secondary sucks. You know, how all the other games count too.
So you're saying that we shouldn't judge based on 1 game, and maybe look at a whole season...interesting, I thought you said your perception of our pass defense was based on 1 game.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:39 pm to CockInYourEar
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So you're saying that we shouldn't judge based on 1 game, and maybe look at a whole season...interesting, I thought you said your perception of our pass defense was based on 1 game.
I said that to make my point that y'all's pass D is an unknown, just like UGA's
ETA: I also said that I might be jaded by that game, admitting my potential bias
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 8:42 pm
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