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re: UGA continues to improve admissions standards

Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:38 am to
Posted by WorkinDawg
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:38 am to
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In short, if you are accepted in to UGA, unless there are EXTREME circumstances or you're an athlete, you qualify for HOPE. It's definitely not like Texas where if you finish in the top 10% of your graduating class, you are already accepted in to UT Austin.


That would be awesome- I'd move my kids to Carver or Stephenson for their last HS semester....
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:40 am to
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I'd move my kids to Carver or Stephenson for their last HS semester....


the downside to that though...
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:41 am to
Does UGA or any GA college get the same amount of money from Hope as a cash paying student? Ive never actually seen if they have a different reimbursement structure
Posted by WorkinDawg
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:43 am to
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the downside to that though...


But if they survive they'll be a little tougher, and heading to UGA!

Even though they may go.....
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:46 am to
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Certain comapanies that recruit UGA grads probably aren't sending professional recruiters to Miss State.


I worked for a company several years ago that definitely preferred UGA grads over others. This wasn't a southeastern company either. They focused on grads from UGA, Auburn, and Clemson, with the rankings of preferred grads in that order. Obviously those are good schools for my field. Never really got an explanation for it, but that was the reality.
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:49 am to
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Does UGA or any GA college get the same amount of money from Hope as a cash paying student? Ive never actually seen if they have a different reimbursement structure


HOPE is based off your GPA. You get 50% paid for with a 3.0
60% with a 3.3
75% with a 3.5

And if you have a 3.7 or better and have a 23 or better on the ACT you qualify for Zell Miller, which is 100% paid for. The catch is that each semester you have to maintain the GPA or you will lose the money. I think for HOPE once you're in college you have to maintain a 3.0 and for Zell Miller you have to maintain a 3.5

The money is redeemable for any for any College or University within the University System of Georgia
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:50 am to
that has been pretty much stated and I am well aware of that aspect of hope, but was not my question
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:51 am to
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that has been pretty much stated and I am well aware of that aspect of hope, but was not my question


sorry bro beans I didn't read the whole thread. Carry on
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:54 am to
When did it go to that structure?

When I graduated HS I got HOPE and they paid full tuition and I thiiiiink (not sure) maybe a SMALL book allowance.

Also I was part of the first class of students that had to re-up your HOPE every spring. Also due to some unfortunate health reasons, I had to move my start date back a semester. So I started in the spring then got reassessed. I lost it. So I got HOPE for 1 semester, yippee!
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:10 am to
I'm a senior in High School this year and I just got done applying for everything. HOPE stopped paying full tuition 2 or 3 years ago, then they introduced Zell Miller and made the requirements much higher and made it much tougher to keep the scholarships.
Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:12 am to
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Out of curiosity, what year did you graduate and what is your current job title?

Full disclosure: I like you as a poster but you are perpetuating the myth that an undergrad degree means something special. it's a checkmark. (Vandy is the exception)


2013. I'm back in professional school but I don't feel like getting super specific. Yes, my undergrad degree was really nothing other than satisfying admissions requirements but I can still be proud of my school
Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:15 am to
I didn't know those specific numbers...it is certainly changing a lot and not for the better for the majority of students. When I started college not long ago it was 3.0+ and you're 100% covered and then they moved to either 90% or 100% based on your GPA. None of those 50% stuff.

I mean most incoming freshman at UGA would probably start with the ZM or at least the 3.5/75%, but it's a different story for students at GSU/VSU/etc
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:17 am to
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Bit more to it than that. Certain comapanies that recruit UGA grads probably aren't sending professional recruiters to Miss State.


Agreed, although you may be underestimating the broad stroke of job fairs and recruiting. Once again it's the grad students that really matter, undergrads have only proved they are able to learn (unless it is a specialty degree)
Posted by PNW
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:18 am to
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If you qualify for Hope, you are more than likely going to qualify for college in Georgia. only reason they wouldnt, is if their test scores were abysmal



Just because you "qualify" for college, does not mean you'll get accepted.

We aren't talking about Auburn here, with your 83% acceptance rate.
Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:21 am to
He's saying anyone with a 3.0 in high school would get in somewhere. Not UGA or Tech, but Southern, State, VSU, etc.
Posted by PNW
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:22 am to
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He's saying anyone with a 3.0 in high school would get in somewhere. Not UGA or Tech, but Southern, State, VSU, etc.



Gotcha. Well, I agree then. There are 30 or so public colleges in the University System of Georgia. If you have a 3.0, you'll "qualify" for all of them but that means squat.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:23 am to
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you don't see higher quality of jobs that you may think compared to the rest of SEC schools.

Mmmm not true at all. UGA has a major footprint in corporate America
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:25 am to
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2013. I'm back in professional school but I don't feel like getting super specific. Yes, my undergrad degree was really nothing other than satisfying admissions requirements but I can still be proud of my school


good stuff, you will do well.

It has annoyed me more lately that recent grads of any school think they are entitled (wife works with a bama grad and a kennesaw state grad who think they deserve better even though they are lucky they are in the positions they are) I always view these types of threads as an enablement of the mentality that "you are more special" when you aren't. (Use of you is not referring to tween)

You on the other hand are pursuing additional education which does in fact mean you are a bit more special
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:33 am to
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Just because you "qualify" for college, does not mean you'll get accepted.

We aren't talking about Auburn here, with your 83% acceptance rate.



I see reading comprehension isn't a qualification for UGA, but at least you have your acceptance rate at around 52%. Now go play in traffic
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:39 am to
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Mmmm not true at all. UGA has a major footprint in corporate America



Not denying that but I was saying the difference in quality jobs obtained by UGA grads and their counterparts is not proportionate to the difference in academic prestige. This is probably due to the fact that corporations generally practice regional recruiting, so UGA will have a foothold in Atlanta and surrounding cities while other SEC grads are able to get jobs in Houston & Dallas, for example. Those three markets are pretty large so there is plenty of room for, say an Auburn student who graduated in Accounting, to obtain a job in Atlanta at big 4 that a UGA grad would also covet. Now, some of this is anecdotal as I know plenty of recent UGA grads and I'm comparing their target jobs to those of LSU students I know well. However, I think the data confirms this when you compare median salary and earnings of the top earning alumni.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 10:44 am
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