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Posted on 10/16/08 at 10:59 am to dociletiger
Would UT want him?
Posted on 10/16/08 at 11:08 am to arlo
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Would UT want him?
I really wonder how the SEC office would feel about a head coach coaching at 3 different SEC schools consecutively?
Posted on 10/16/08 at 11:14 am to arlo
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Would UT want him?
I highly doubt it.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 11:17 am to Bankshot
Tubs -> UT
Franchione -> The Barn
Franchione -> The Barn
Posted on 10/16/08 at 11:18 am to arlo
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Franchione -> The Barn
I think Auburn could do a little better than Fran
Posted on 10/16/08 at 11:21 am to Auburntiger
Auburn during Tubbs
1999 Tommy Tuberville 5-6 0.45455
2000 Tommy Tuberville 9-4 0.69231
2001 Tommy Tuberville 7-5 0.58333
2002 Tommy Tuberville 9-4 0.69231
2003 Tommy Tuberville 8-5 0.61538
2004 Tommy Tuberville 13-0 1.00000
2005 Tommy Tuberville 9-3 0.75000
2006 Tommy Tuberville 11-2 0.84615
2007 Tommy Tuberville 9-4 0.69231
Totals 80 wins 33 losses .70293 win%
Average wins per season 8.89
Average losses per season 3.67
SEC Championships 1
Alabama during Tubbs
1999 Mike DuBose 10-3 0.76923
2000 Mike DuBose 3-8 0.27273
2001 Dennis Franchione 7-5 0.58333
2002 Dennis Franchione10-3 0.76923
2003 Mike Shula 4-9 0.30769
2004 Mike Shula 6-6 0.50000
2005 Mike Shula10-2 0.83333
2006 Mike Shula
Joe Kines 6-7 0.46154
2007 Nick L. Saban 7-6 0.53846
Totals 63 wins 49 losses .55950 win%
Average wins per season 7
Average losses per season 5.44
SEC Championships 1
I think the overall comparisons are what have the upper management at Auburn frustrated. In the time he's been at Auburn. He has the same amount of championships that Bama has had in this time period. Factor in that this is the worst 9 year period in Alabam history, notwithstanding the 1950's, and I can see why folks think they should have been able to capitalize more.
To think Auburn will continue to dominate this series is pretty far fetched. I believe it will be on an even keel fairly quickly, if not leaning to Alabama's advantage before long.
1999 Tommy Tuberville 5-6 0.45455
2000 Tommy Tuberville 9-4 0.69231
2001 Tommy Tuberville 7-5 0.58333
2002 Tommy Tuberville 9-4 0.69231
2003 Tommy Tuberville 8-5 0.61538
2004 Tommy Tuberville 13-0 1.00000
2005 Tommy Tuberville 9-3 0.75000
2006 Tommy Tuberville 11-2 0.84615
2007 Tommy Tuberville 9-4 0.69231
Totals 80 wins 33 losses .70293 win%
Average wins per season 8.89
Average losses per season 3.67
SEC Championships 1
Alabama during Tubbs
1999 Mike DuBose 10-3 0.76923
2000 Mike DuBose 3-8 0.27273
2001 Dennis Franchione 7-5 0.58333
2002 Dennis Franchione10-3 0.76923
2003 Mike Shula 4-9 0.30769
2004 Mike Shula 6-6 0.50000
2005 Mike Shula10-2 0.83333
2006 Mike Shula
Joe Kines 6-7 0.46154
2007 Nick L. Saban 7-6 0.53846
Totals 63 wins 49 losses .55950 win%
Average wins per season 7
Average losses per season 5.44
SEC Championships 1
I think the overall comparisons are what have the upper management at Auburn frustrated. In the time he's been at Auburn. He has the same amount of championships that Bama has had in this time period. Factor in that this is the worst 9 year period in Alabam history, notwithstanding the 1950's, and I can see why folks think they should have been able to capitalize more.
To think Auburn will continue to dominate this series is pretty far fetched. I believe it will be on an even keel fairly quickly, if not leaning to Alabama's advantage before long.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 11:25 am to Alahunter
quote:To you guys just put these comments on repeat every year. Give me a break.
To think Auburn will continue to dominate this series is pretty far fetched. I believe it will be on an even keel fairly quickly, if not leaning to Alabama's advantage before long.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 11:31 am to AubieOne
Why do you think otherwise? Seriously, Alabama has been in its worst period of time in over 50 years, and it appears that things are slowly on the upswing again for us. Tubbs has had right at a decade to build a juggernaut in this state, yet has less than a 2 wins a year average in this time span and the same amount of championships. Not to mention one less 10 win season.
I give props to Auburn for all they've done the last 9 years. But to deny that he hasn't been able to go to the next level and will have an even more difficult time now is delusion. I guess you've caught that from us.
I give props to Auburn for all they've done the last 9 years. But to deny that he hasn't been able to go to the next level and will have an even more difficult time now is delusion. I guess you've caught that from us.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 1:36 pm to Alahunter
I think the whole notion that TT is afraid or upset enough about Bamas record to want to slither out of town is absolutely ridiculous. shite is hitting the fan there for one reason W/L record, and as of now, that has nothing to do with Bama. This line of thinking from you Gumps proves that no matter how highly ranked and successful your football team is, you guys still find a way to let your delusion light shine. Unreal. I thought that maybe TT going to the spread this year may have been an overeaction to Bamas rise but after watching half a season of Todd and Burns I understand why he had to go away from traditional AU smashmouth. They are horrible and he knew it.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 1:46 pm to bgtiger
TT doesn't want to leave because of Bama's early success. The BOT and TT doesn't get along and never has and I think TT is finally getting fed up with their shite. His record speaks for itself so he is a good coach but I don't think he wants to put up with their shite anymore because he HAS proven himself.
That being said, Bama's success so far is putting more pressure on him from Lowder and co. AU will always be judged on how well Bama does and that's the way it's always been.
When you look back at these last 10 years and you see that TT has the same amount of conference titles as Bama, it's not good IMO. We were hit hard by probation and Tubby capitalized in recruiting because of it.
IMO, he should step down because they have not treated him right after everything he done for the AU program.
That being said, Bama's success so far is putting more pressure on him from Lowder and co. AU will always be judged on how well Bama does and that's the way it's always been.
When you look back at these last 10 years and you see that TT has the same amount of conference titles as Bama, it's not good IMO. We were hit hard by probation and Tubby capitalized in recruiting because of it.
IMO, he should step down because they have not treated him right after everything he done for the AU program.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 1:46 pm to bgtiger
quote:I havent seen that in this thread. I did see Bama/LSU/Auburn fans agreeing that the current success of Bama is contributing to the pressure that is being put on Tubs, though.
notion that TT is afraid or upset enough about Bamas record to want to slither out of town is absolutely ridiculous
quote:?? If he knew his QBs were awful, wouldn't he have continued to run his smashmouth style, thereby limiting the effect his (awful) QB had on the game?
after watching half a season of Todd and Burns I understand why he had to go away from traditional AU smashmouth
Posted on 10/16/08 at 1:49 pm to bgtiger
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shite is hitting the fan there for one reason W/L record, and as of now, that has nothing to do with Bama.
That's funny. Auburn fans have admitted as much already on this board.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 1:54 pm to bamaatlsu
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?? If he knew his QBs were awful, wouldn't he have continued to run his smashmouth style, thereby limiting the effect his (awful) QB had on the game?
uhh, they would have to pass the ball dropping back from under center and I assume he needed to have these guys in shotgun most times to have any shot at a decent passing game. The RB's aren't cadillac, rudi, or ronnie b this year either. teams may have put 9 in the box against AU with those two qb's under center. i ust can't see either one of these guys having any success in a I formation base offense. yes, less "success" than now. spread the field, have the threat of the qb run/ option was his best bet imo. none of that has to do with Saban.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 1:59 pm to bamaatlsu
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notion that TT is afraid or upset enough about Bamas record to want to slither out of town is absolutely ridiculous
I havent seen that in this thread. I did see Bama/LSU/Auburn fans agreeing that the current success of Bama is contributing to the pressure that is being put on Tubs, though.
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This is why I am hearing he is stepping down. Secures his legacy, so to speak.
Pretty much the gist of a few of the posts.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 2:01 pm to bgtiger
I see your rationalization now, but I still think your reasoning is off a bit. The QB is the focal point in Franklin's system, and he brought Todd in just to run his offense. It was viewed as an upgrade from Auburn's previous QBs (at the time).
Posted on 10/16/08 at 2:01 pm to bgtiger
i think there will be a mutual departure at the end of the season. tubbs will be coaching at clemson or ut next season. jmo.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 2:02 pm to bgtiger
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Pretty much the gist of a few of the posts
one poster said this, and 8 others said otherwisePosted on 10/16/08 at 2:05 pm to bamaatlsu
If Tubby steps down, like Bowden at Clemson, he loses all leverage when it comes to getting monies remaining on his contract, which was just renewed significantly last yr. Clemson & Bowden agreed to a buyout, but Bowden was in no position to bitch, he pretty much took what they offered him. Tubby's not going to give up millions without some fighting on his part.
Posted on 10/16/08 at 2:14 pm to Alahunter
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I give props to Auburn for all they've done the last 9 years. But to deny that he hasn't been able to go to the next level and will have an even more difficult time now is delusion. I guess you've caught that from us.
In Tubbs defense, I don't think it is him. I think it is Auburn that can not go to the next level. They will always remain the other school in Alabama. I am not saying that to be rude but it is just a fact. If they didn;t capitalize during this last ten year stretch I don't think they will in our lifetime. Auburn will always be a program that is a average and every now and then they will perform a little above average. A year like 2004 may come along every 10-15 years and with a little luck they may one day get a shot at the big dance but I doubt it.
Auburn will never be Alabama and a streak over BAMA will always be enough for the Auburn fans. If they were in another state that didn't have a football team they would be better off than to be here with a giant of a program like Alabama.
I really do wish them well in the future and I hope they find a good coach but I am afraid he would have the same results because it's just Auburn.
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