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re: Tre Mason is better than McFadden and Herschel

Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Gus Bus Driver
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:35 pm to
Hard to argue that Tre didnt have a better season than Herschel or McFadden. Numbers dont lie
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:39 pm to
Wall of text or not, Hershel could not compare to Bo in any statistical way.

He fed off the worst defenses in the country and his best year (as a frosh) was when his opponants were the worst.

I would put DMac above Hershel but Bo is #1 and it's not in doubt.
Posted by dhuck20
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:45 pm to
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I would put DMac above Hershel but Bo is #1 and it's not in doubt.
hahahahaha
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:47 pm to
Oh look, it's a Georgia fan getting buttmad

Didn't see that coming
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39497 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:47 pm to
Didn't read the thread, but what Herschel did was more impressive. Yes, Mason was the main ingredient to Auburn's offense, but a substantial portion of his carries came on runs that were read options or predetermined handoffs designed to look like read options. Defenses had to account for Marshall keeping the ball.

Teams sold out to stop Herschel on every snap. It was sweep left, sweep right, repeat. Not to mention that both players being compared to Mason here were great throughout their college career.

Mason had a great year, but comparing himself to McFadden and Walker is laughable.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10830 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:49 pm to
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The bottom line that separates the SEC’s two leading rushers is Bo Jackson was the more effective runner - he averaged more than a yard more per carry than Herschel.


First of all....Bo Jackson is not one of the "SEC's two leading rushers". Kevin Faulk and McFadden both rank ahead of him. And if you want to use YPC to define effectiveness because Bo had so many fewer carries then let me nominate Cecil Collins and his 8.3 YPC. Hell, if he had as many carries as Herschel he would have amassed 8,250 yards - almost 3,000 more than Herschel.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:53 pm to
Felix Jones averaged 7.7 ypc.


Maybe he's better than Bo Jackson too
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 6:55 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Herschel could not compare to Bo in any statistical way
Wrong
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
22698 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:54 pm to
Dmac over Herschel is what I was responding to. Bo is debaTable but Dmac over walker is hilarious
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10830 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:01 pm to
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Hard to argue that Tre didnt have a better season than Herschel or McFadden. Numbers dont lie


I guess you missed the part about Tre's stats were for a 14 game schedule and Herschels were for 11, huh? Bowl games stats did not count before 2002.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:10 pm to
Blind Comparison of running backs in their junior seasons.



Which one is better?


87 carries, 485 yards, 5.5 ypc, 5 TD

335 carries, 1,752 yards, 5.2 ypc, 16 TD

325 carries, 1,830 yards, 5.6 ypc, 16 TD

133 carries, 1,162 yards, 8.7 ypc, 11 TD

207 carries, 1,072 yards, 5.2 ypc, 8 TD

96 carries, 707 yards, 7.4 ypc, 8 TD




For those scoring at home..


Bo Jackson
Herschel Walker
Darren McFadden
Felix Jones
Michael Smith
Matt Jones (the fricking quarterback)

Bo Jackson is not the best in the SEC because he took 4 years to have a really great season.

His Career numbers through his first three seasons compared to Felix Jones:


Bo - 372 carries, 2,517 yards, 6.8 ypc, 27 TD

Felix - 386 carries, 2,956 yards, 7.7 ypc, 20 TD

This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 7:11 pm
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16743 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

I would put DMac above Hershel


Pretty retarded statement. I know it's just your opinion but it's a retarded opinion.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:20 pm to
Bo Jackson was 19 when he started college and turned 20 during his freshman season.

Darren Mcfadden turned 18 just prior to his freshman season.


Darren Mcfadden was 20 years old when he finished his college career.



maybe Bo looked like a man among boys because he WAS a man among boys
Posted by DocHog
Member since Nov 2006
1925 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:25 pm to
I think Mason will have an outstanding pro career. He is durable, fast and punishes the defense.

I don't think he is up with DMac, Bo, and Walker, but that's just me
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:33 pm to
First time I've ever hear Faulk in a discussion with Bo and Herschel? This must be an LSU thing
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92615 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Killean
Felix Jones isn't even in the same league as Bo Jackson.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:39 pm to
But stats don't lie


Or at least stats don't lie when they support an Auburn argument.. but they lie like hell when they don't support one
Posted by YHCDawg
Winder, GA
Member since Aug 2004
581 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:39 pm to
Herschel literally carried an average UGA team to a 33-3 record, 18-0 SEC record and a natl championship. He did this with QBs that had completion percentages of barely 50% with 31 Tds and 27 ints combined during the three years.

Bo was a great player and a tremendous athlete but did not have the same impact as Herschel.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:42 pm to
Faulk's career stats are up there with anybody's. Definitely had a great pro career too.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92615 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

But stats don't lie
quote:

His Career numbers through his first three seasons compared to Felix Jones:
These stats are funny.

Did you take Bo Jackson's injury into consideration? You know, the one that caused him to miss almost all of the 1984 season?
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