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re: Tracy may've shared a drink with Cam, but Erin is under the cover with Ingram

Posted on 4/27/11 at 9:08 am to
Posted by bamaphan13
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 9:08 am to


quote:

least impressive heisman winner ever


you know what they call the guy who graduated last in his class at med school?
This post was edited on 4/27/11 at 9:09 am
Posted by MattP598
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 9:10 am to
How tall is EA?? Or how short is MI?
Posted by ThunderCock69
LASC
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 9:17 am to
Jenn Brown on the other hand, i would write home and leave the lights on.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 12:45 pm to
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And you are an authority how?


Through observing in 2009 that (1) Ingram wasn't even the best running back in the country and (2) Ingram wasn't even the best player on his own team.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 12:48 pm to
How sad must Bo be then, considering Ingram had better numbers his Heisman yr, than Bo did in his Heisman year.
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 12:48 pm to
Do we really need to rehash this?
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 12:51 pm to
She has the hawt.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Jenn Brown on the other hand, i would write home and leave the lights on.


Seriously? She has a five-head bigger than the Hollywood sign. Not that I wouldn't frickin' love to have her give me the time of day, but Erin Andrews is the gold standard. Jenn Brown is the Hydrox to her Oreo's if you catch my drift.

Also, really, have any of you barners heard of Eric Crouch or Jason White? I know that you love to hate on Ingram, but really those two Heisman winners were just bad.
This post was edited on 4/27/11 at 12:53 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 12:52 pm to
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How sad must Bo be then, considering Ingram had better numbers his Heisman yr, than Bo did in his Heisman year.


How sad, then, that you don't realize that it took Ingram 2 extra games to do that.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 12:55 pm to
Take a look at how many times they touched the ball in their respective yrs.

Bo 282 touches 1859 yds 17 TD's 6.8 yds per play
Ingram 303 touches 1992 yds 20 TD's 6.6 yds per play

Not to mention.. Bo led Auburn to 4 losses against a much weaker schedule than Ingram had to go against, who led Bama to a perfect season.
This post was edited on 4/27/11 at 1:01 pm
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:03 pm to
So ingram had 133 more yards on 21 more carries. Bo averaged 6.8 a touch so with the extra 21 carries he would have finished with roughly 9 more yards than MI. Hope MI doesn't blow out his knee like Bo
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Hope MI doesn't blow out his knee like Bo



You and I both.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

he would have


He didn't. Ingram had more TD's also.

quote:

Hope MI doesn't blow out his knee like Bo


Bo blew a hip. Hope Ingram doesn't either, and hate Bo did, would've liked to have seen him with a full career in the NFL to see the damage he'd have put on the record books.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38018 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Take a look at how many times they touched the ball in their respective yrs.

Bo 282 touches 1859 yds 17 TD's 6.8 yds per play
Ingram 303 touches 1992 yds 20 TD's 6.6 yds per play

Not to mention.. Bo led Auburn to 4 losses against a much weaker schedule than Ingram had to go against, who led Bama to a perfect season.


Different eras. The SEC did not throw the ball as much back in 1985, so Bo definitely wasn't going to receive the ball like Ingram did.

When you compare them as RUNNING backs, there *is* no comparison.

Bo - 1786 yds, 17 TDs in 12 games
Ingram - 1658 yds, 17 TDs in 14 games

And, considering the evidence you posted above, you have proven definitively that the 2009 Heisman Trophy Award winner should have been... Toby Gerhart.

Ingram - 303 touches, 1992 yds, 20 TD's
Gerhart - 354 touches, 2028 yds, 28 TD's

I repeat... Ingram wasn't the best RB in the country, much less the best player.

Ingram wasn't the best player on the 2009 bama team.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

When you compare them as RUNNING backs


The Heisman isn't for best RB, it's for best player. Clearly, Ingram was as good as Bo in producing the numbers, moreso even, and in scoring.

Also, you realize Bo did not lead the nation in rushing they yr he won it, right?
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

so Bo definitely wasn't going to receive the ball like Ingram did.


Bo in 85 - 278 rushes
Ingram in 09 - 271 rushes

Same amount of TD's. And as you said, Auburn was a pure running team, with outstanding run blocking and didn't have to learn to pass block much, right?
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:21 pm to
oh, and bringin in Gerhart, because you now realize Ingram and Bo's Heisman yrs are nearly identical.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3489 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Ingram wasn't the best player on the 2009 bama team.


I agree with this. Except that there was no way Rolando was going to win the Heisman, a linebacker will not win that award. Bad argument there.

And really people bringing up Gerhart, okay he was good, but c'mon PAC-10 defenses outside of USC are flat out abysmal. Ingram was much more impressive, when you compare the competition that he faced.

Now if you were arguing that Suh was the guy that should have won the Heisman, you'd have my interest, rather than you just trying rile up some Bama fans. Seriously that guy was by far the best college player I've seen in a long, long time.
Posted by archercurley
MS GULF COAST
Member since Oct 2010
792 posts
Posted on 4/27/11 at 2:29 pm to
If Erin turned sideways and opened her mouth she would look like a zipper with hair...I can still hear her whining voice in the Texas dugout saying coawch Awgie Goreeto will find out some way to whip the Tigers
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