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Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:29 am to TeLeFaWx
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I agree with your overall point, but Dallas is definitely nicer than Atlanta, and just about everything is nicer than Houston.
I actually prefer Dallas to Atlanta as well. I go to Dallas for work every few weeks, and I've grown to really like it. In fact, I would say that Atlanta and Dallas are very similar. If I had to live in a big city, Dallas would be by first choice, followed by Atlanta.
I also go to Houston regularly, and I'm not really a fan. I do love the entrepreneurial, libertarian spirit of the city. But while those ideals have been great for the cities growth (in both population and income), its made it one of the uglier cities in America. That, plus the humidity causes Houston not to be very high on my list.
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If you combine DFW, which is already the 4th busiest in the country, and Love Field, you've got to be pretty close to Atlanta.
ATL has around 101 million passengers per year. If you comebine DFW and Love Field, it equals about 89 million annual passengers. Fairly close, but Atlanta is busier.
When people point to the airport in Atlanta as one of the reasons its a global city, it somewhat irks me. I would bet 95% of the passengers that travel through Atlanta's airport are connectors simply going from one city to another. Does someone from Wilmington, NC, trying to get to Jackson, MS who stops off in terminal B for a few minutes en route really distinguish a city as "global?"
I mean it is impressive that the busiest airport in the world is in Atlanta, but Atlanta lags way behind in terms of International passenger traffic. JFK, Miami, and LAX are all ahead of Atlanta in terms of international passenger traffic... and probably several others, but I can't find a ranking other than the Top 30 international aiports, and Atlanta doesn't make that list.
Atlanta is a global city for sure, but to me the airport is just a small portion of what makes it that.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:29 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Dallas people see where they live on the same level as places like NYC, LA, SF etc
There's some truth to that being a Dallas attitude.
I think Dallas and Atlanta are more similar than Houston is to either. The biggest distinction, to me, is that Dallas is more "polished" than Houston, and that is a direct result of the lack of zoning in Houston for so long.
Dallas and Atlanta's midtown/uptown areas abut their downtown areas and the transition is smooth. You can leave downtown Dallas or downtown Atlanta and have a straight shot through a nice area for several miles.
Houston is more spread out, and has the whole petro thing going on, which gives it more industrial blight and more trashy areas.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:38 am to texag7
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I mean it is. There are neighborhoods in Dallas that Atlanta cannot touch. Dallas also has some of the top high schools in America.
I will say, the Highland Park/University Park area of Dallas blows me away every time I'm there. There is so much wealth there its astounding. Very few cities can have an area so large in which the average home is worth around $2 million. There are over 11,600 housing units in those cities, and according to Zillow the current median list price is $1.75 million.
Other than Manhattan, parts of Los Angeles, and the Bay Area, and the north shore suburbs of Chicago, there is no other greater concentration of wealth in the United States like the northern suburbs of Dallas.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:38 am to TeLeFaWx
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I mean Atlanta/Houston are much more similar which is why I used Houston as an example. Dallas is much nicer than both.
Atlanta is more like Dallas. Both are great.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:49 am to BHMKyle
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Other than Manhattan, parts of Los Angeles, and the Bay Area, and the north shore suburbs of Chicago, there is no other greater concentration of wealth in the United States like the northern suburbs of Dallas.
And the true suburbs, up in Collin County, are wealthy, too... I believe Collin County is one of the wealthiest per capita in the country or something. I used to live there. I don't want to live there again unless I have to, but you could do a lot worse.
We get a ton of Collin County kids at Arkansas, because it isn't that far of a drive.
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:03 am to Carolina_Girl
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That was me, asshat. I just returned home from a travel nursing assignment in ATL where I was stabbed and robbed while there, then spent almost a month longer in the hospital recuperating. That would put a bad taste in ANYONE'S mouth so frick you and the high horse you hobbled in on.
Wow. Glad you're okay. I'm so glad they moved the Braves out of downtown. I remember constantly looking around when leaving the stadium to go to my car.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:07 am to tigerfan in bamaland
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City? I love New Orleans, but it's a personal bias selection and I freely admit it.
I LOVE LOVE New Orleans. Go there all the time. For me Nashville is a little better because it doesn't have that New Orleans smell and it actually dries out after a rain. Don't get me wrong though, N.O. for food, Zydeco music, and good drink specials all day.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:11 am to Lacour
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So what is the best Southeast town?
depends on perspective. If I could go to any southeast town right now for week to just hang, I'd head to San Destin.
If you're asking about going to a city where there is a lot to do, then I'd say Atlanta or Nashville.
If you're asking about where to live, there are a lot of great options.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:20 am to BHMKyle
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Other than Manhattan, parts of Los Angeles, and the Bay Area, and the north shore suburbs of Chicago, there is no other greater concentration of wealth in the United States like the northern suburbs of Dallas.
Long Island, western Connecticut, north shore Boston, northern VA, northwest D.C., outlying northern NJ suburbs, I can keep going
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:29 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
If I was rolling in money, I'd have a house on the east side of Lookout Mountain, close to the TN/GA line looking out over the edge. My other house would be in "Old Florida" off of 30A, and my boat would be at the marina in Destin. I'd also have a condo in the Museum District in Houston. That way I could get my big city fix in the town I love.
I'd spend Thanksgiving to early January at Lookout Mountain, travel somewhere tropical in Jan/Feb. Spend early spring at the beach and late spring at Lookout Mountain. Early summer at Old Florida, and mid to late summer traveling and at Lookout Mountain. I'd spend the Fall in Old Florida. I'd probably go to Houston once a quarter for health care and just to go.
My realtor's number is 1-900-DRE-AMON.
I'd spend Thanksgiving to early January at Lookout Mountain, travel somewhere tropical in Jan/Feb. Spend early spring at the beach and late spring at Lookout Mountain. Early summer at Old Florida, and mid to late summer traveling and at Lookout Mountain. I'd spend the Fall in Old Florida. I'd probably go to Houston once a quarter for health care and just to go.
My realtor's number is 1-900-DRE-AMON.
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:33 am to Bubbles Up
nola and its not even close.
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:35 am to Bubbles Up
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If I was rolling in money, I'd have a house on the east side of Lookout Mountain, close to the TN/GA line looking out over the edge. My other house would be in "Old Florida" off of 30A, and my boat would be at the marina in Destin. I'd also have a condo in the Museum District in Houston. That way I could get my big city fix in the town I love.
West U, Bozeman and Rosemary Beach for me but I like your style
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:37 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other!
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:48 am to Lacour
Nashville gets my vote.
Athens is a solid #2.
Athens is a solid #2.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:08 am to LSUwag
I am voting for Nashville. Amazing city.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:25 am to Tiger_Claw
I think of it as which is the best place to live. My answer is Fairhope. But, don't tell anybody. Y'all stay away. I have lived in several SEC states, New York, Joisey, DC, and California. I am in paradise right now except a few snowflakes here and there.
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:33 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Long Island
Are you talking vacation homes in the Hamptons? Sure. But we're talking primary homes located in or near a major city. Summer homes in the Hamptons are not the same thing.
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western Connecticut, north shore Boston, northern VA, northwest D.C., outlying northern NJ suburbs, I can keep going
You could, but you'd still not be correct... especially when you factor cost of living.
If you look at the Zillow Home Value Index, Highland Park ($1,625,600) and University Park ($1,425,900) come in ahead of places like Greenwhich, CT ($1,351,300) and Chevy Chase, MD ($1,107,200).
All are very wealthy areas. And when you look at the income stats from the US Census, they are all very close (mainly because the census does a terrible job of accurately estimating income at those high levels).
But when you take into account cost of living, you realize its not even close. According to Business Insider's Cost of Living calculator, for the 53 US metros that have at least 1 million residents, Washington (#1), New York (#2), San Francisco (#3), Boston (#4), San Jose (#5), and Los Angeles (#14) are all very expensive cities. Your paycheck does not go very far there.
Dallas comes in at #45 in the cost of living index. The only US metros that are cheaper to live in for the average family are Cleveland, Louisville, Houston, New Orleans, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, Nashville, and Memphis.
When you take this into consideration, you realize just how opulent some of the suburbs of Dallas really are. The disposable income goes way, way further.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:39 pm to BHMKyle
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But when you take into account cost of living, you realize its not even close. According to Business Insider's Cost of Living calculator, for the 53 US metros that have at least 1 million residents, Washington (#1), New York (#2), San Francisco (#3), Boston (#4), San Jose (#5), and Los Angeles (#14) are all very expensive cities. Your paycheck does not go very far there.
Dallas comes in at #45 in the cost of living index. The only US metros that are cheaper to live in for the average family are Cleveland, Louisville, Houston, New Orleans, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, Nashville, and Memphis.
When you take this into consideration, you realize just how opulent some of the suburbs of Dallas really are. The disposable income goes way, way further.
This is absolutely true, and why it would be so asinine to leave the south for anything less than a 50k raise.
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