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re: Top QB, WR and RB Combo's for 2013
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:56 pm to Garfield
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:56 pm to Garfield
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Melena is a non-factor
T.J. Yeldon (14 games) - 175 carries for 1108 yards, 12 TD (6.31 ypc), 11 catches, 131 yards, 1 TD
Ben Malena (13 games) - 138 carries for 808 yards, 8 TD (5.86 ypc), 18 catches, 111 yards, 1 TD.
If you give Malena the same number of carries as Yeldon, he would then have 1,025 yards rushing. Keep in mind that Christine Michael had 12 rushing TD last year and Trey Williams 5. That equals Eddie Lacy's TD total.
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AJ passer >>>>>> JFF Passer
A.J. McCarron (over 14 games): 211-314-3, 30 TD, 2,933 yards (67.2 completion %)
Johnny Manziel (over 13 games): 295-434-9, 26 TD, 3,706 yards (68.0 completion %)
Manziel had more yards in fewer games
Manziel had a better completion % with 120 more attempts
McCarron had 4 more TD passes with 1 additional game
McCarron had 6 fewer interceptions
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Yeldon = JFF rushing
Manziel rushing (over 13 games) - 201 carries, 1,410 yards, 21 TD (6.97 ypc)
Manziel had 310 more yards and 9 more TD over one fewer game.
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Cooper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Evans
Amari Cooper (14 games): 59 catches, 1,000 yards, 11 TD
Mike Evans (who played half the season on a bad hamstring and has only played WR for 2 total seasons of football, 13 games): 82 catches, 1,105 yards, 5 TD
No other Alabama receiver had 500 or more yards last season. A&M had two with 900 or more. Not only that, but Nwachukwu would have been SECOND on Alabama's team in receiving yards.
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:56 pm to bisonduck
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I think it's hard to put ATM's three over BAMA. IT is a stretch.
29-24. In Tuscaloosa. Obviously Alabama's defense was better. Given our missed extra points and field goals, obviously their special teams were better. While I disagree about our offensive lines, all the gumps think it is laughable that I would say our offensive line is better. So what else gave us the win? Obviously not coaching, right? To the average person... Other than WR/QB/RB, the gumps had the advantage? I'm sorry if your logic doesn't apply. It seems the only thing that have possibly lead to a win was our WR/RB/QB combo... No?!?!?
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:58 pm to Garfield
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if ATM Han even a decent LT the would not make Matthews play out of position.
lol no.
Matthews is a natural LT. That's what he was recruited to play. Luke got the nod at LT primarily because he enrolled early. He obviously developed into a tremendous LT, thus obviating any point in moving Jake to LT.
Jake came back for two reasons: 1) to play alongside his brother, and 2) to play LT.
Literally the day he announced his return, Sumlin said we'd move him to LT. There was no discussion or debate about that.
Jake's an All-American tackle. We would need someone far better than "decent" at LT to keep from sliding him over.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 12:00 am
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:00 am to TeLeFaWx
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29-24. In Tuscaloosa. Obviously Alabama's defense was better. Given our missed extra points and field goals, obviously their special teams were better. While I disagree about our offensive lines, all the gumps think it is laughable that I would say our offensive line is better. So what else gave us the win? Obviously not coaching, right? To the average person... Other than WR/QB/RB, the gumps had the advantage? I'm sorry if your logic doesn't apply. It seems the only thing that have possibly lead to a win was our WR/RB/QB combo... No?!?!?
Begone with your logic!
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:01 am to TeLeFaWx
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29-24. In Tuscaloosa. Obviously Alabama's defense was better. Given our missed extra points and field goals, obviously their special teams were better. While I disagree about our offensive lines, all the gumps think it is laughable that I would say our offensive line is better. So what else gave us the win? Obviously not coaching, right? To the average person... Other than WR/QB/RB, the gumps had the advantage? I'm sorry if your logic doesn't apply. It seems the only thing that have possibly lead to a win was our WR/RB/QB combo... No?!?!?
You won because Saban found a player he couldn't gameplan for in a week. He may have had plenty of tape, but he only had a week to prepare.
Don't worry, he's probably already found every way possible to attack you. We'll be leaving College Station with a double digit win.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:02 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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You have to put some pressure on him, because he can pass too, but you have to congest the pocket and you have to have a Spy or play Zone. If you can get pressure while still keeping him within a wall and get good coverage you'll be able to have a chance.
Agreed. I was being hyperbolic to an extent.
The point is that our tackles don't protect the QB in a traditional sense; their job is actually easier in that regard. This only serves the argument that Jake will have a smooth transition.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 12:03 am
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:03 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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You won because Saban found a player he couldn't gameplan for in a week. He may have had plenty of tape, but he only had a week to prepare.
So Mark Snyder's defensive gameplan had nothing to do with it?
He didn't shift the 3-tech tackle to nose specifically to exploit Barrett Jones' weaknesses at center?
He didn't audible the coverage on BOTH McCarron interceptions?
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:04 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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McCarron had 4 more TD passes with 1 additional game
McCarron had 6 fewer interceptions
The most important stats, and don't forget that from the Mizzou game on he was hurting pretty bad.
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Amari Cooper (14 games): 59 catches, 1,000 yards, 11 TD
Mike Evans (who played half the season on a bad hamstring and has only played WR for 2 total seasons of football, 13 games): 82 catches, 1,105 yards, 5 TD
No other Alabama receiver had 500 or more yards last season. A&M had two with 900 or more. Not only that, but Nwachukwu would have been SECOND on Alabama's team in receiving yards.
Cooper has more yards per catch, more TDs on a lot less catches, and wasn't even used much until the Ole Miss game.
White got injured early, was set for a big year.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:04 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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He didn't audible the coverage on BOTH McCarron interceptions?
Thought the Aggies dbs audibled that 2nd pick on their own.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:06 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Don't worry, he's probably already found every way possible to attack you. We'll be leaving College Station with a double digit win.
The last team to leave College Station with a double digit win was Missouri in 2010. That was lost because the wrong coach (Sherman) had the wrong quarterback (Johnson) and the wrong right tackle (Brian Thomas) in the starting lineup.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:07 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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We'll be leaving College Station with a double digit win.
Yeah...........no.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:07 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Thought the Aggies dbs audibled that 2nd pick on their own.
Deshazor Everett was quoted after the game that Snyder gave them specific instructions to flip the coverage if they saw that exact play.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:07 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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So Mark Snyder's defensive gameplan had nothing to do with it?
He didn't shift the 3-tech tackle to nose specifically to exploit Barrett Jones' weaknesses at center?
This definitely helped out, Jones was in his first year as a Center, and for a Center (especially a first year Center) quicker players give them trouble, good move by Snyder to exploit a first year Center, most DCs wouldn't have thought that up.
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He didn't audible the coverage on BOTH McCarron interceptions?
Dumbass WR on first also contributed.
Coop not picking his man and AJ being stupid and throwing the ball anyway also contributed, but to be fair calling a pass from the 2 when you have CyKo-Warmack-Jones-Steen-Fluker-Williams and Lacy int he backfield is stupid to begin with. No way to know now, but it's more than likely that we win if we just run the damn ball.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:07 am to CGSC Lobotomy
That will be one helluva game. A double digit win prediction is a pretty bold prediction.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:07 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Yeah...........no.
Yeah, we will. But thanks for the input.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:08 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I'm still not sure why o line is being discussed, or why were just saying players are better w/o any backup. Johnny had more yards than Aj passing and more than yeldon rushing... Mike Evans had more yards receiving than copper...
Basically malena is just bonus.
Basically malena is just bonus.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:09 am to bisonduck
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That will be one helluva game. A double digit win prediction is a pretty bold prediction.
Indeed it is, and it isn't discrediting A&M, but it's a Saban revenge game, the D will be much better, the eye test will tell you we play better on the road, and Saban will be game planning all Summer for the game. He can practice it on Logan Thomas, get a bye week to fix it up, and then execute.
Keep in mind, 10 points is a double digit win. We could be up by three with time ticking down and make it look like we're gonna knee and then just flip it to TJ and have him run it to the house, make the PAT and we win by double digits.
:nana:Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:10 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Deshazor Everett was quoted after the game that Snyder gave them specific instructions to flip the coverage if they saw that exact play.
Gotcha.
Snyder really doesn't get enough credit for last seasons success imho
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:11 am to FormMorm
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I'm still not sure why o line is being discussed, or why were just saying players are better w/o any backup. Johnny had more yards than Aj passing and more than yeldon rushing... Mike Evans had more yards receiving than copper... Basically malena is just bonus
To be fair, Bama slows the game down. Stats are not the best indication. If this is purely by production, Oregon is going warp speed next year. Helfrich wants to push the envelope even more than Kelly. That doesn't mean the trio is better.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:11 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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A.J. McCarron (over 14 games):
Johnny Manziel (over 13 games):
The most important stat for a QB is that extra game.
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