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re: Top QB, WR and RB Combo's for 2013

Posted on 5/4/13 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Garfield
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 2:15 pm to
You are correct but Titans were second worst.

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Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 2:18 pm to
K. Clearly this makes Jake Matthews bad at tackle. Solid reasoning
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 2:32 pm to
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Saying it doesn't make it true.


Just as much as you saying it isn't...
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 3:29 pm to
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No they didn't, the Cardinals did


the cards and the eagles had two of the worst o-lines ive ever seen in the NFL. absolute dog shite. it was no wonder so many OL got taken early in the draft this year.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 3:42 pm to
For the millionth time this isn't about depth or OLs, it's about a big three using a team's starter at QB, RB, and their number one WR.

Yeldon > Melena

Cooper > Evans

JFF > AJ
Posted by Datbayoubengal
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 3:52 pm to
they are strictly going off JFF because they do not have any rb that is overall a top dog above the others. that one short guy (can't remember his name right now) l9oks like he'll be real good but anything can happen.

From a returning production standpoint it should be

Bama
UGA,
aTm
Oregon, Clemson(no particular)
Posted by DeuceisLoose
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 4:13 pm to
1) Ole Miss (Bro Wallace, Jeff Scott, Donte Moncrief)


2) Err'body else
Posted by FormMorm
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 4:51 pm to
Literally a&m is # 1 is returning production.. Already added the #'s ...

It doesn't matter what you think about running back: malena had 800 yards sharing time with a 5 star freshman and an NFL 2nd rd pick... AND some QB who led the SEC in rushing himself.


Bama was/is better team but skill positions isn't a contest.
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 5:31 pm to
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Bama was/is better team but skill positions isn't a contest


Wow that's a huge overstatement. You might believe that A&M's skill position players are overall the better unit but to say it's a contest very sheepish. The only position where A&M has the better starter is QB.

JFF>>>>>>>>>>> Aj
TJ>>>>>>>>any of A&Ms rb's
Coop>>A&Ms WR- your freshman is outstanding as well but every knowledgeable non A&M fan will pick Coop.

I'm not saying that your guys are bad, they're great players but Bama's guys are better at 2/3 positions.
Posted by FormMorm
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 5:45 pm to
One of our positions is better than 2 of your positions.

Also our WR had more production last year, not saying I think he's "better".


Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 7:25 pm to
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JFF>>>>>>>>>>> Aj


I wouldn't put the gap that big. As a pure passer I'd take AJ, but JFF is a much more dynamic runner who you just can't tackle, he's too shifty. If you do get a hand on him he runs away from you.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 7:26 pm to
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Literally a&m is # 1 is returning production.. Already added the #'s ...

It doesn't matter what you think about running back: malena had 800 yards sharing time with a 5 star freshman and an NFL 2nd rd pick... AND some QB who led the SEC in rushing himself.


Bama was/is better team but skill positions isn't a contest.



So, really quick, Yeldon is better than Malena and Cooper is better than Evans, right?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 8:48 pm to
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For the millionth time this isn't about depth or OLs, it's about a big three using a team's starter at QB, RB, and their number one WR.

Yeldon > Melena

Cooper > Evans

JFF > AJ


Thing being Malena might not get the most touches, and Cooper vs Evans is a minor, if applicable difference, and do you really thing the marginal difference between Yeldon and Malena is equal to the difference between JFF and AJ? You're crazy if you think it is anywhere close.

Yeldon > Malena
Cooper = Evans
JFF >>>> AJ

So I mean... advantage A&M.
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 8:50 pm to
Trey Williams >= Malena >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeldon
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 8:55 pm to
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So, really quick, Yeldon is better than Malena and Cooper is better than Evans, right?


Yeldon yes, but Brandon Williams might end up being the star, and we need to see him perform before we make that judgement... and I think Cooper v Evans is damn near a wash. Evans is more a mismatch, and a far more physical receiver. And he did have 100 more yards in one less game. Different to compare, and at the end of the day, the marginal difference between JFF and AJ is ridiculous. JFF was the SEC's leading rusher. If you don't get how that makes him far better than AJ, I don't know what to tell you, Johnny not only threw for damn near 1,000 yards more yards(in one less game, and SITTING MORE), but he rushed for 1409 yards. The A&M trio accounts for what? 2,000 more total yards than the Bama trio, in one less game?
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:03 pm to
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Yeldon and Malena is equal to the difference between JFF and AJ? You're crazy if you think it is anywhere close.

Yeldon > Malena
Cooper = Evans
JFF >>>> AJ

So I mean... advantage A&M.




What? Yeldon is a top two back nationally.

And you think JFF is that much better than AJ? They're different players. They may not be the top two pro prospects, but most will easily tell you they're the two top QBs in CFB right now, and to say the difference is that big is a bit off. No doubt JFF is better, and I mean no doubt, but AJ's not some scrub, he's got 2 rings, an insane TD:INT ratio with a good YPA, a National Championship MVP award, and a season where he led the nation in passer rating and I'd be willing to bet he'll do it again this year.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:05 pm to
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but Brandon Williams might end up being the star, and we need to see him perform before we make that judgement.


eh. If he was anywhere near as good as Yeldon, we would know by now.

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The A&M trio accounts for what? 2,000 more total yards than the Bama trio, in one less game?


This is really not comparable. We had more complete, first half blow outs than yall did, and when we blow out teams, that usually means not only do our starters sit more, but also keep the ball on the ground.

Even though I think that JFF is a better college QB, you cant really compare the two in the sense that you are. One plays is a pro style, pocket QB. The other is a dual thread QB in a spread offense.

The vast majority of great QBs at the next level are pro stlye, pocket QBs. Not saying that AJ is the next great NFL QB, just saying that using rushing yards for the basis of your argument is kind of foolish.
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 9:06 pm
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:06 pm to
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Yeldon yes, but Brandon Williams might end up being the star, and we need to see him perform before we make that judgement


Maybe so, but as of right now Malena is the guy and that's what we're going off of.

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Cooper v Evans is damn near a wash


It's close, but I don't know if it's near a wash. It's definitely close.

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Evans is more a mismatch, and a far more physical receiver.


No doubting that.

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And he did have 100 more yards in one less game.


Coop wasn't getting many targets until the Ole Miss game, and pretty much sat out the LSU game.

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FF was the SEC's leading rusher. If you don't get how that makes him far better than AJ, I don't know what to tell you, Johnny not only threw for damn near 1,000 yards more yards(in one less game, and SITTING MORE), but he rushed for 1409 yards. The A&M trio accounts for what? 2,000 more total yards than the Bama trio, in one less game?



This isn't what it's about. First of all being a great rusher doesn't automatically make him a million times better than AJ, AJ's a much more efficient passer, and has lost as many games in his career as JFF did in one season. I'm not saying AJ is on JFF's level, because he isn't, but being a runner doesn't automatically make you a better QB. It makes you a different QB.
Posted by FormMorm
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:14 pm to
You guys really believe what you're saying don't you?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 9:14 pm to
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You guys really believe what you're saying don't you?



I'm not sure how any of what I posted, or he posted for that matter, is unbelievable...
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