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re: Top Players to date by Position...agree/disagree

Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:38 pm to
CB - Claiborne

P - Wing (easy one)

K - Walsh (ETA: nevermind I didn't look up kicker stats)
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Trent Richardson is not better than Michael Dyer.


The whole country disagrees with this.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:39 pm to
WR - Hunter above all others

QB - Bray


Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2968 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Bama fans, why exactly is Trent Richardson better than Mike Dyer? Alabama's got one of the best Olines in the nation, Dyer's running behind a bunch of new guys and they have basically even production.


Bama fans, i got this one.
Dyer is a very good back, very good. But he runs in a spread offense that utilizes him against 5-6 man fronts. Richardson, who i think is the most complete back since A. Peterson, runs inside and downhill against 7-9 man fronts. Even when you know he is coming, more often, you can not stop him. I do not think Dyer is on that level but i would deff put him at # 2 (active; Lat & Nile).
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

TheCheshireHog


Even if you averaged out his production to even Orson's catches, he still wouldn't have as many yards. And of course, the substantial touchdown disparity.

When you have yalls receivers though I'm not surprised he doesn't get more attention.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88636 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

K - Walsh


Appreciate it, but not this year man. He's having the worst season of his career and to be honest, has kinda sucked.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41229 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

K - Walsh

He's having a shitty year.

ETA = Thinking of the wrong guy when I said the OM kicker.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 3:44 pm
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35671 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

K - Walsh


Walsh is garbage this year, Sturgis from Uf leads the nation in FG percentage...
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Trent Richardson is not better than Michael Dyer.


The whole country disagrees with this.



Everyone is the world with eyeballs outside of Auburn disagrees with this.


Richardson is fricking special. Dyer is just another really good SEC RB in a long, long line of them.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41177 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:40 pm to
With them being injured I can see why he would not include them. I believe Hunter for sure is the best WR in the league and Bray statistically is the best QB in the league, but they need to stay healthy like these other guys to prove it.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

K - Walsh


Walsh is garbage this year, Sturgis from Uf leads the nation in FG percentage...



I actually just assumed he was the best without looking. I'll edit.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41229 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Even if you averaged out his production to even Orson's catches, he still wouldn't have as many yards. And of course, the substantial touchdown disparity.

When you have yalls receivers though I'm not surprised he doesn't get more attention.

Oh yeah, he definitely isn't on Charles level yet. I was trying to say that I think even Gragg is better than Lutz.

Wilson has started getting him the ball more the last 3 weeks. He wsa hardly thrown to at all in the beginning of the season.
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2968 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

an offense that can't figure out the forward pass and basically runs against a stacked box every time he touches the ball


Again, Bama fans, i got this.

Did you not watch the LSU game this weekend? We stacked the box every play. AJ is not a good QB. And TR did what he does. How did Dyer do in the same situation with LSU?
Posted by Duckman13
Tiger Stadium
Member since Dec 2006
3055 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:42 pm to
K- Bama's 2 kickers
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:42 pm to
Bamas LB's are pretty sensational but I don't know which is the best.

I think Moseley definitely has the best pro career though.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35671 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

I think Moseley definitely has the best pro career though.


He's special, like Rolando McClain special. Not many 34 ILBs can play any scheme other than the 34, but Mosley is an exception. He could be a star in a Tampa 2 or any other 43 D.

He's got the coverage skills of a DB, but the body and power of a LB...
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11820 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:48 pm to
I'm not saying Lutz is a better receiver than Charles, but once again I'm asking myself, "Is he even worth a shite at blocking?" I asked it a few weeks ago and no one answered and now I'm asking it again. The TE position is a hybrid between the two. All I've ever seen is Charles go out for passing routes in the TE positon or when he's flexed out in the slot position.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

QB - Murry/Wilson

RB - Trent Richardson

WR - Jarius Wright/Rogers/Randle

DL - LSU front 4

LB - Upshaw/Trevathan(sp)

CB - Claiborne/Banks
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88636 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:51 pm to
Yeah he's worth a shite, but in our passing game he is more of a receiver. Unless someone posts stats to backup how they compare blocking, all we have to go on to compare the two is the hard data that I already posted, and that favors Orson by a wide margin. It's like the bama fans who were convinced Julio was better than AJ even when AJ had better stats all across the board simply because "he's a better blocker".

If a TE does nothing but block all the time and catches a redzone TD every once in a while, why should he be considered better than the TE who has much better stats and doesn't block as much?
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35671 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

block all the time and catches a redzone TD every once in a while


You pretty much described verbatim the TE position.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 3:57 pm
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