Started By
Message
0
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:04 am to Irons Puppet
quote:
Safe passes to protect Freshman QB.
He was 3rd in yards per attempt, so that tends to disagree with your point. Fromm also had the 3rd longest pass from scrimmage. he was also 3rd in passing TD's in the SEC. Maybe Auburn should have thrown more "safe" passes to protect their Junior QB?
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:07 am to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:
Jeudy, Ruggs, and Smith are way better than your UGA receivers.
What have any of those guys done that make you think they’re better than Godwin and Hardman?
I’ll be waiting for the answer, because I’m sure there is none. Stats are worse. Recruiting rankings are lower (save Jeudy over Godwin).
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:08 am to BhamDore
quote:
The Bama freshman Wrs didn't get enough targets, but all 3 are much better.
The one that caught the championship winning pass was the 3rd best Bama freshman WR.
We also red-shirted a Top 100 receiver, Shavers.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:09 am to DawgsLife
A 5 yard screen that goes 40 yards counts the same as a 40 yard bomb. And it is considered a safe pass.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:25 am to Irons Puppet
quote:
A 5 yard screen that goes 40 yards counts the same as a 40 yard bomb. And it is considered a safe pass.
Because nobody else threw those, right? Maybe Auburn should throw more of those? You might have made the playoffs. You absolutely paid no attention to the SECCG, did you? Or to the National Championship game or to the Rose Bowl.
You would think if that is all Fromm was throwing the other teams would have brought their DB's up close, wouldn't you? You know to shut all those 5 yard screen passes down instead of allowing them to go for 40 yards? Gus sure is a weak coach to not have done that.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:27 am to Dawgsontop34
quote:
Stats are worse
Because we had a top 10 pick in Ridley getting most of the catches.
quote:
Recruiting ratings are worse
Check again
They also beat UGA in the most important stat- NC rings won.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:43 am to Paul B Ammer
quote:
Check again
They also beat UGA in the most important stat- NC rings won.
So did everybody on the bench that didn't get into any games. NC Rings does not make a player better, somehow.
As I said earlier...there is no way we can crown one player better than another. I don't think that was the intent of the OP. (Although....who knows, really?) But there is no denying they were better in the metric that was mentioned. People can make the argument that their player would have done better had they gotten the opportunity...and that might be true. But they didn't get the opportunity. Those three players did, and of all the players in the country that got that opportunity those three players had better statistics for that particular metric.
This post was edited on 3/17/18 at 11:56 am
Posted on 3/17/18 at 12:50 pm to Paul B Ammer
quote:
Because we had a top 10 pick in Ridley getting most of the catches.
Yes, I'm not saying that didn't hurt production. I just want to know what you're using to say they're way better players.
quote:
Check again
They also beat UGA in the most important stat- NC rings won.
So every player on Bama's National Championship team was better than everyone they beat all season?
And here are the recruiting rankings for our guys vs. yours (using 247 composite):
Hardman (UGA) - 12th overall, class of 2016
Jeudy (Bama) - 21st overall, class of 2017
Godwin (UGA) - 27th overall, class of 2015
Smith (Bama) - 62nd overall, class of 2017
Ruggs (Bama) - 75th overall, class of 2017
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:04 pm to Dawgsontop34
AJ Brown is hands down the best WR in the SEC
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:06 pm to Quicksilver
quote:
AJ Brown is hands down the best WR in the SEC
Absolutely agree with that.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:23 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:
What have any of those guys done
Well, for one thing, they're not midgets.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:29 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:
quote:
Jeudy, Ruggs, and Smith are way better than your UGA receivers.
What have any of those guys done that make you think they’re better than Godwin and Hardman?
Saying they are "Way better" is a huge stretch. Those UGA receivers are damn good.
I really like Juedy, Ruggs and Smith. They will be very good players for Bama and showed a lot a lot of potential this past year as True Freshman.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:32 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:
Top 3 returning WR passer rating when targeted by Irons Puppet
Safe passes to protect Freshman QB.
That rpo in the benz vs auburn wasn't safe
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:35 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:
screen that goes 40 yards counts the same as a 40 yard bomb. And it is considered a safe pass.
Yes but that has nothing to do with the guys in the post.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:47 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:
Safe passes to protect Freshman QB.
I mean, he also had the greatest RB tandem of all time running the ball about 60 - 70% of the time and was consistently throwing into single coverage. Just pick one side, because the opposing team will almost certainly have eight in the box to stop the run.
Of course, we don't want to look at the numbers when their running game didn't work as they wanted it to, of course.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:55 pm to spacewrangler
quote:
Saying they are "Way better" is a huge stretch. Those UGA receivers are damn good.
I really like Juedy, Ruggs and Smith. They will be very good players for Bama and showed a lot a lot of potential this past year as True Freshman.
This is all very reasonable, and I agree with it. Even if you want to say they have the potential to be way better or you think in the future they'll be way better, that's fine. I just don't know how anyone could say they are already way better based on what they've done. Yes, Smith caught the touchdown that won the game, but it's not as if Hardman wasn't incredibly impressive on the 80-yard TD catch in the 3rd quarter.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 2:11 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
quote:
he also had the greatest RB tandem of all time running the ball about 60 - 70% of the time
Wrong again, as usual:
Fromm 23.07 tpg (46.9%)
The duo 26.1 rpg (53.1%)
This post was edited on 3/17/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 3/17/18 at 2:47 pm to djsdawg
quote:
Wrong again, as usual:
Fromm 23.07 tpg (46.9%)
The duo 26.1 rpg (53.1%)
Weird how you have 100% without factoring:
Swift: 88 runs.
Herrien: 61.
Holyfield: 50.
+20 more from other backs and receivers who also ran it.
Also, you don't measure throws per game in regards to production, you measure completions. (181 is a lot different than 291.)
But whatever makes you feel comfortable about how this whole thread is a huge L.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Silly straws. The comparison was between Fromm and the 2 rbs that made up the "greatest tandem of all time". The % is strictly comparing those two entities.
In terms of play selection, you measure in attempts.
In terms of production, You measure in yardage.
In terms of play selection, you measure in attempts.
In terms of production, You measure in yardage.
This post was edited on 3/17/18 at 4:20 pm
Page 2 of 7
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News