Started By
Message

re: Top 10 SEC RBs since 2006

Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61080 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Bell’s performance has been below average


He has 889 yards and its November.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

Alvin Kamara is used in that offense as a starter. I’d say anyone who is a major part of an offensive game plan is a starter. There are 32 teams. Semantics. Meh.


Kamara has less than half the carries that Fournette has. That's not semantics, it's facts that are shitting on your argument, like you said earlier, I'm sorry you don't like them. You don't get to say 18 is below average using 32 as the root, and then count more than 32 running backs.

quote:

Yes. This year, Bell’s performance has been below average. That’s .3 YPC better than Trent Richardson’s career average at Cleveland.


So you think 5 of the consensus top 10 backs in the league are "average to below average"?

Got it.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 10:43 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

He has 889 yards and its November.


"Average to below average"
Posted by Tuscaloosa
11x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
46571 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

He has 889 yards and its November.


That’s exactly my point I was making about Fournette, and why total rushing yards isn’t a good metric. Trent Richardson broke Jim Brown’s rushing record. Bell has run the ball 40 more times than the next closest RB.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
11x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
46571 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

So you think 5 of the consensus top 10 backs in the league are "average to below average"?


Why does that matter?

Are you attempting to argue that 3.8 yards per carry is above average?

Not sure if serious.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:54 pm to
quote:


Why does that matter?

Are you attempting to argue that 3.8 yards per carry is above average?

Not sure if serious


I just want to establish that you're claiming the best running back in the NFL is below average due to one metric, and that you're doing so because you've backed yourself into a corner trying to troll LSU fans about Fournette.

It's just more proof that you're not good at this, at all.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61080 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:57 pm to
There is not one team in the NFL that wouldn’t love to have Fournette on their roster. He’s good. He was good in HS, we was good in college, and he is good now. Not average, above average.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
11x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
46571 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:58 pm to
No, I am matter of factly stating that Bell’s (and anyone else) 3.8 YPC is un-good.

That doesn’t make Bell below average as a RB. He’s got a solid track record. But it does mean he’s having a below average year. I’m not backed into a corner. At no point will you ever be able to successfully argue that 3.8 YPC is above average.
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:59 pm to
Henry being off this list is a joke and probably more of a troll job than just pure stupidity. Bama's offensive line in 2015 was very mediocre to average. They clicked late in the year but if Henry had the 2012 Bama line he might have gone for 3,000 yds. The fournette stuff is getting stupid, he's very talented and could be great but to say he's better than Shaun Alexander or Ingram already is pure homerism.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

There is not one team in the NFL that wouldn’t love to have Fournette on their roster. He’s good. He was good in HS, we was good in college, and he is good now. Not average, above average.



Tuscaloosa's shitty trolling has come to a head. He's now claiming that Le'Veon Bell and Todd Gurley are "below average" NFL running backs.

I just want this to be clear.

quote:

That doesn’t make Bell below average as a RB. He’s got a solid track record. But it does mean he’s having a below average year. I’m not backed into a corner. At no point will you ever be able to successfully argue that 3.8 YPC is above average.


Bell's career YPC - 4.3

This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
11x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
46571 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

He's now claiming that Le'Veon Bell and Todd Gurley are "below average" NFL running backs.


I have not once ever said that. You continue to put words into my mouth that I never said.

3.8 YPC is below average, period. Bell has a track record that has shown he’s better than that as a back.

LF has averaged less than 4YPC in 6 of his 8 games, and that’s all we have to go by.

LF sure as hell is no Le’Veon Bell.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 11:03 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:03 pm to
Todd Gurley's career YPC - 4.0
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61080 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:03 pm to
lulz
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30097 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:04 pm to
Nick Chubb lol
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

3.8 YPC is below average, period. Bell has a track record that has shown he’s better than that as a back.



quote:

LF sure as hell is no Le’Veon Bell.


According to you, he sure ad hell is.

Posted by Tuscaloosa
11x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
46571 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

According to you, he sure ad hell is.


Your reading comprehension hasn’t gotten any better over the last few pages, I see.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:08 pm to
So, to recap, Fournette's 4.3 YPC is as good as Le'Veon Bell's career and better than Todd Gurley's. Therefore, all 3 backs are "below average" according to Tuscaloosa.

Such sound logic cannot be denied.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:10 pm to
quote:


Your reading comprehension hasn’t gotten any better over the last few pages, I see.


Either 4.3 YPC is below average or it isn't. Which is it?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43792 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

lulz


This is what it looks like when you rip a trolls head off and shite down their throats.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
11x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
46571 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:18 pm to
Really bizarre conclusion. Here, let me sum up my stance for you. I will use small words.

LF is nothing special. Here are the NFL backs averaging a higher YPC:

quote:

Alvin Kamara (rookie)
Alex Collins
Aaron Jones (rookie)
Kareem Hunt (rookie)
Orleans Darkwa
Tevin Coleman
Dalvin Cook (rookie)
Mark Ingram
Lagerrette Blount
Chris Thompson
Dion Lewis
Bilal Powell
Devonta Freeman
Jamaal Charles
Todd Gurley
Derrick Henry


LF has inflated total rushing yards because he has carried the ball more than every single back in the league, with the exception of 2.

LF has averaged fewer than 4YPC in 6 of his 8 contests.

LF has only two rushes for 20+ yards.

Without those two rushes, LF would not have a single game in which he averaged 4+ YPC.

Le’Veon Bell is a very good back, having a below average year. His total rushing yards are highly inflated due to his number of carries. Prior to this year, he averaged 4.9, 4.9, and 4.7 YPC, respectively. Because of that, we know Bell is a very good NFL RB.

Leonard Fournette, as far as we know, is barely average and has flat out struggled in several games.
Jump to page
Page First 3 4 5 6 7 ... 14
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 5 of 14Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter