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re: Tony Barbee has been fired
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:37 am to GenesChin
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:37 am to GenesChin
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Not as big a deal as you think
Exactly, the spend a month and a half with these guys during the summer, the rest of their time with their HS coach.
Auburn isn't ever going to be in on the guys who are in the NIKE AAU connection, the only SEC school who is, is Kentucky.
Kansas and Wichita St. have done fine being none nike schools, I guess next you will they will say the school needs to move to Kansas in order to be able to recruit talent.
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:37 am to GenesChin
Did you see Charles' halftime comments about the program? He said we must switch to Nike for basketball. So Charles say it then a player says it. I think it's a bigger deal then people want to admit. They would know better than us.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:39 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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1 NCAA crown in 2002, 2 Final 4s, 5 Final 8s, and 13 Sweet 16s..Terrapins are a true bruiser!
Arkansas has = or more of all the above than Maryland in the same time frame so does that mean they are closer to be a true king?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:40 am to MrAUTigers
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If you have grown up wearing Jordan's/Nike, you aren't going to want to wear UA
or Adidas, correct?
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Any player Auburn is recruiting is being recruited by a handful of Nike schools
not true and even if it were, why choose AU if they have UnderArmour
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:41 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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How old are you? While your comment is true, if going back to the early 1970s to present, they are in that strong contingent just below The True Kings.
1 NCAA crown in 2002, 2 Final 4s, 5 Final 8s, and 13 Sweet 16s..Terrapins are a true bruiser!
Blue Blood are elite of elite programs. They are Duke, Indiana, UCLA, UNC, UK, UKansas
Plenty of teams have stats better than UMaryland like UArizona, UConn, Syracuse, Louisville, Georgetown Michigan State and more that I can't think of right now.
If I can name over 10 teams off the top of my head with better production, you are not a blue blood
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:41 am to DaleDenton
Wichita is Nike.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:42 am to bona fide
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not true and even if it were, why choose AU if they have UnderArmour
If they are good enought o be recruited by any other school, they likely aren't going to AU with or without UA at the moment
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:42 am to DecaturAU
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Did you see Charles' halftime comments about the program? He said we must switch to Nike for basketball. So Charles say it then a player says it. I think it's a bigger deal then people want to admit. They would know better than us.
The same was said before we switched, by the coach, by the former players, etc.
Nothing changed in recruiting, until the coaches changed, and the coach who was here for the switch initially was suppose to have all kinds of Nike AAU connections...
It is a fallacy, it is a common theme/rumor spread by teams like it is a recruiting strategy by Nike.
We won a NC wearing APEX unis, have been to the tourney rocking APEX, Converse, Adidas, and Nike, if you have a good program shoes and shite don't matter, but if you don't the shoes and shite must be what's wrong...
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:44 am to bona fide
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or Adidas, correct?
Adidas makes some good shoes. UA shoes are behind. You have to remember they are new at this and their shoes are not as good as Nike or Adidas. If you have never competed in sports, you would not understand. Shoes that don't fit right are the worst thing in the world. More than a handful of our football players had foot issues the first couple of years after we switched to UA. Their football shoes have improved. UA is working on their entire shoe dept., but they aren't there yet.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:45 am to GenesChin
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Utah and Temple disagree. They have had a resurgence under UA and both were very very bad before UA.
Temple has the 12th most tournament appearances all-time. They were down in the early 2000's but were back making the tourney yearly again about 3 or 4 years before the signed with Under Armour in the summer of 2010.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:46 am to GenesChin
AU signs players recruited by Nike schools every year. Based on his arguments, these players would have never signed with AU.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:47 am to DaleDenton
But if you have a program that is shite, having Under Armour isn't doing you any favors when trying to turn it around. Plus you can't compare this era now as the same when Arky was good decades ago. It's not apples to apples.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:47 am to TheCheshireHog
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Temple has the 12th most tournament appearances all-time. They were down in the early 2000's but were back making the tourney yearly again about 3 or 4 years before the signed with Under Armour in the summer of 2010.
Temple also had to replace Chaney after he gooned out and switched conferences in that time frame.
Very unstable program.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:49 am to DecaturAU
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But if you have a program that is shite, having Under Armour isn't doing you any favors when trying to turn it around. Plus you can't compare this era now as the same when Arky was good decades ago. It's not apples to apples.
AAU is just as dirty now as it was then, we had recruits steered away from us just as I'm sure some were directed towards us.
Nolan wouldn't play the AAU game, so he got players from elsewhere and developed them.
College basketball isn't all about recruiting, if it was Kentucky would never lose a game, a team like Wichita state would never make the tourney, they have not signed a MCD AA since the 70s....
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 12:50 am
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:52 am to TheCheshireHog
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They were down in the early 2000's but were back making the tourney yearly again about 3 or 4 years before the signed with Under Armour in the summer of 2010.
This is the most erroneous thing in the thread. Utah stopped their streak of NCAA appearances in 2005. In 2008 Utah signed with Under Armour. 2009 They made tournament. Very serious contender this year
In 2010, there is an al.com article that references Temple being outfitted by Under Armour. So Temple had UA at least in 2009
Temple had no tourny appearances from 2002-2007. Made every year from 2008-2013 and at least 4/5 with UA
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:52 am to DaleDenton
Don't know what grade of recruiter he is, but Fran Dunphy has always struck me as a Pro's Pro as a tactician/HC..his teams always impress and play a tough tourney style ball..
His Penn teams much like Princeton, gave teams a fight even if going out in NCAA 1st Rnds.
Go look at his Wiki page, much like Bruce Pearl's, it's sorta staggering all the 1st place and 2nd place finishes.
His Penn teams much like Princeton, gave teams a fight even if going out in NCAA 1st Rnds.
Go look at his Wiki page, much like Bruce Pearl's, it's sorta staggering all the 1st place and 2nd place finishes.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:54 am to DaleDenton
But all those teams are just a flash in the pan more times than not. I'm not saying all of them are, just most. Sooner or later they all fade away. Just like Davidson, George Mason, Florida Gulf Coast, Butler, etc. they struck gold for a couple years or so then they disappear.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:55 am to GenesChin
Temple signed with UA in July of 2010.
Also, I didn't say a thing about Utah so I have no clue why you are mentioning them in conjunction with my statement.
Also, I didn't say a thing about Utah so I have no clue why you are mentioning them in conjunction with my statement.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 12:57 am
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:57 am to TheCheshireHog
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Temple signed with UA in July of 2010.
I have been looking for that for awhile. Thanks
Performance still didn't drop off after moving to UA until this year. In fact, they went ot the second round after signing with UA
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:57 am to TheCheshireHog
No idea why I brough up Utah but it still fits
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