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re: Tonight shows the playoff committee was a mistake
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:47 am to lsufball19
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:47 am to lsufball19
BCS was the best b/c it limited the biases
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:48 am to kywildcatfanone
based on beating an average ND 
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:52 am to Daequalizer
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BCS was the best b/c it limited the biases
It also limited the number invited. Which should limit bias by half.
Earth must be tough a tough place to live for all these humans making decisions about human things.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:56 am to Reeves40
quote:nor should they with SOSs in the bottom 1/3 of CFB that will only worsen going forward. This obsession with treating CFB's elite level like its parity or gameplay are on par with baseball or basketball is unusual.
The committee will never put an undefeated Group 5
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 11:57 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:57 am to Darth_Vader
A committee also chooses every college sports championship contenders
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:18 pm to Darth_Vader
The in season committee rankings are simply laying the ground work to justify what the committee wants to be able to do were the opportunity present itself.
this ranking, same as all the rankings, say two things. Be undefeated P5 or be in the SEC/B1G
Alabama at 2 is totally undeserved if the committee protocol of not taking into account previous seasons is truly being observed.
Alabama has played 2 good teams according to the committee. Ole Miss at home, winning easily, and A&M away losing. im sorry, CONVINCINGLY. that game was not a fluke. you don't come back from way behind to still lose on a fluke. that simply isnt what the word means.
Alabama has not looked like the death star this year in the way that Georgia does, or they did last year. it doesn't matter why. they do not deserve to be #2 The committee has that at #2 because they want to build a foundation for putting them in the playoff if they lose close to Georgia and end the season 11-2; I don't believe they would do that if say, Ohio St/Michigan St and Oklahoma and Oregon all won out, but I think they would put 11-2 Alabama in over a 1 loss B12 team or Cincy, or Oregon presuming Ohio St gets beaten a few more times.
The other notice is Ohio St. Who has yet to play both Michigan and Michigan St. despite not looking that great against Penn st, the only other competent team they have beaten this year. (I said what I said Minnesota) who just lost to ILLINOIS LOL, Ohio st is RIGHT behind Oregon, who beat them at their place. if both teams win out there is NO WAY Ohio st should be ranked ahead of Oregon. The pac12 being what it is, Oregon will probably lose and it won't matter.However if they do win out, the current rankings have B1G at #3,5,7,20,21,22 All of this guarantees there will be so much sos difference between Oregon and Ohio st by the end of the year that they will claim the teams were not close enough to bother with the tiebreaker of head to head.
Cincinnati is at their glass ceiling. They need both the pac 12 and big 12 to fall apart. 2 loss Alabama will get in over them.
this ranking, same as all the rankings, say two things. Be undefeated P5 or be in the SEC/B1G
Alabama at 2 is totally undeserved if the committee protocol of not taking into account previous seasons is truly being observed.
Alabama has played 2 good teams according to the committee. Ole Miss at home, winning easily, and A&M away losing. im sorry, CONVINCINGLY. that game was not a fluke. you don't come back from way behind to still lose on a fluke. that simply isnt what the word means.
Alabama has not looked like the death star this year in the way that Georgia does, or they did last year. it doesn't matter why. they do not deserve to be #2 The committee has that at #2 because they want to build a foundation for putting them in the playoff if they lose close to Georgia and end the season 11-2; I don't believe they would do that if say, Ohio St/Michigan St and Oklahoma and Oregon all won out, but I think they would put 11-2 Alabama in over a 1 loss B12 team or Cincy, or Oregon presuming Ohio St gets beaten a few more times.
The other notice is Ohio St. Who has yet to play both Michigan and Michigan St. despite not looking that great against Penn st, the only other competent team they have beaten this year. (I said what I said Minnesota) who just lost to ILLINOIS LOL, Ohio st is RIGHT behind Oregon, who beat them at their place. if both teams win out there is NO WAY Ohio st should be ranked ahead of Oregon. The pac12 being what it is, Oregon will probably lose and it won't matter.However if they do win out, the current rankings have B1G at #3,5,7,20,21,22 All of this guarantees there will be so much sos difference between Oregon and Ohio st by the end of the year that they will claim the teams were not close enough to bother with the tiebreaker of head to head.
Cincinnati is at their glass ceiling. They need both the pac 12 and big 12 to fall apart. 2 loss Alabama will get in over them.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:25 pm to BearBait09
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The other notice is Ohio St. Who has yet to play both Michigan and Michigan St. despite not looking that great against Penn st, the only other competent team they have beaten this year. (I said what I said Minnesota) who just lost to ILLINOIS LOL, Ohio st is RIGHT behind Oregon, who beat them at their place. if both teams win out there is NO WAY Ohio st should be ranked ahead of Oregon. The pac12 being what it is, Oregon will probably lose and it won't matter.However if they do win out, the current rankings have B1G at #3,5,7,20,21,22 All of this guarantees there will be so much sos difference between Oregon and Ohio st by the end of the year that they will claim the teams were not close enough to bother with the tiebreaker of head to head.
Ohio State plays 2 teams ranked in the top 10 yet. Oregon doesn't have a top 25 team to play. Because the Pac 12 doesn't have a team in the top 25.
If Ohio State wins out they will easily outdistance Oregon. As they should. Why? Because all things aren't equal before you finally get to head-to-head comparisons.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:25 pm to Tigers0918
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No way should a one loss bama (to an unranked team)
Texas A&M is ranked.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:52 pm to bamameister
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Because all things aren't equal before you finally get to head-to-head comparisons.
so do you believe Alabama should be awarded the national title over Clemson for 2018 Season based on their SOS difference? because doing so is completely consistent with your argument.
Head to head is king in sport. PERIOD. the moment it isn't it's an exhibition not a competition.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:59 pm to Darth_Vader
I need someone to 'splain something to me: How can #9 Wake Forest (8-0) be a 2.5 pt. dog to a 4-4 North Carolina?????
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:56 pm to Darth_Vader
I think they got it pretty much right on the money. Cincinnati does not deserve to be ranked No. 2. The only decent team they've beaten is perennially overrated Notre Dame. And Oklahoma did not deserve to be in there, either. They have beaten nobody any good and had great trouble with terrible teams like Kansas and Tulane and unranked teams like Kansas State, Texas and West Virginia. Plus Oregon deserves to be above Ohio State because they beat Ohio State on the road.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:02 pm to Clark14
I agree. Alabama also absolutely destroyed a pretty decent Mississippi state squad on the road the week after they were upset by three on the road at A&M. and I think Alabama will beat Georgia in the SEC championship game if Smart keeps insisting on playing Stetson Bennett X1V (or whatever) at quarterback. Smart has always had a blind spot for the quarterback position and has chosen the wrong player time after time after time to be the starter. It's the only thing holding Georgia back from having a dynamic offense to go with great defense.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:19 pm to bamameister
Go back to your double wide. The computers didn't lie if you played a $hitty schedule it was reflected in the standings. Also it didn't matter if you were a juggernaut it just looked at wins and losses, rankings, SOS etc. Keep the four team format and let the computers decide.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:27 pm to Darth_Vader
My problem is that, once again, the committee seems to be sending messages instead of ranking teams.
For example, they are telling Cincinnati and Wake Forest, "You better start running up scores to get in."
Shouldn't be their job.
For example, they are telling Cincinnati and Wake Forest, "You better start running up scores to get in."
Shouldn't be their job.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:37 pm to Daequalizer
quote:Do you think this hodge podge Committee of 13 random people are able to view 100+ hours of college football every weekend and then sit down and rank the teams?
Keep the four team format and let the computers decide.
They are using computers with specific metrics including SOS, margin of victory, home/away games, competition, strength of conference, etc. to analyze data every week to aid them with the rankings.
There's literally no other way 8 (EIGHT) current Athletic Directors + a damn Arizona State "professor">> Paola Boivin and fricking Rod West (Group President of Entergy Corporation) have the time or inclination to watch that much football and then determine which teams should be ranked where.
The fact that the Committee is made up of such individuals is ridiculous.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:42 pm to Thorny
quote:Look at the list of Committee members this year and tell me how many are able to view 100+ hours of college football in a weekend and provide their rankings. There are 8 Athletic Directors on that Committee, are they really watching other conference teams play ball every weekend? Joe Taylor is on the committee, he is the Vice President for Athletics and Community Wellness at Virginia Union University!!
My problem is that, once again, the committee seems to be sending messages instead of ranking teams.
For example, they are telling Cincinnati and Wake Forest, "You better start running up scores to get in."
Shouldn't be their job.
Who the hell Virginia Union University and what he hell and how does his position as VP of Community Wellness qualify him to have a vote in the CPF?
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:44 pm to Clark14
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Bama has earned the benefit of a doubt.
In most years, I might agree. But I've seen our center and right tackle play.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:50 pm to RT1941
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Joe Taylor is on the committee, he is the Vice President for Athletics and Community Wellness at Virginia Union University!!
Who the hell Virginia Union University and what he hell and how does his position as VP of Community Wellness qualify him to have a vote in the CPF?
Are you literally incapable of using Google?
I mean, it's really not that fricking hard.
As a head football coach, he's won 4 FCS national championships, he's third all-time in victories and fourth all-time in winning percentage among active coaches in the FCS.
And he's in the fricking College Football Hall of Fame.
So yeah, I think he knows a little about what a playoff worthy football team looks like...especially compared to someone like, oh, I don't know, Condoleezza Rice?
I could find that out in just a couple of clicks. Why the hell couldn't you?
I'd a helluva lot rather have him than someone with obvious ties to a Power 5 conference or school.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:03 pm to BearBait09
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Head to head is king in sport. PERIOD. the moment it isn't it's an exhibition not a competition.
Let me help you with what is about to happen. If Ohio State beats Michigan State, a #3 seed, at the same time Oregon is playing unranked Utah, the playoff gap will close immensely. As Ohio State then plays and beats #7 Michigan on Nov 27th, at the same time Oregon beats unranked Oregon State, the playoff gap will shift to Ohio State.
Any team that OSU plays in the conference championship will be ranked. There is no ranked team for Oregon to play in their conference championship.
Do the math. Head to head means little, especially when it's in 2 different conferences a the SOS grows with the playoff committee.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:11 pm to bamameister
Don't know what the melt is about looks about right. It really doesn't matter until the last one anyway. No way Cinci should be in the discussion and Oregon hasn't earned anything.
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