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re: Tim Tebow is such a good person

Posted on 2/10/18 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 2:51 pm to
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No. I'm a Christian, and fricking hated him in college because of oversaturation. But now, I like him. He's g obviously got a good heart and is sincere. But in college, the Tebow blowfest got old as hell


You sound real Christian with that kinda talk
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 2:52 pm to
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You sound real Christian with that kinda talk



Sounds like most of the ones I've ever known.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 2:53 pm to
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That's fine, but it's still his ACTIONS that make him a good person, not his faith.

I see what you are saying, but you are dismissing that his actions are motivated by his faith.

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There are plenty of people who have faith but do shitty actions and vice versa.

Yes, they are, but that does not automatically negate his reasons for doing those things. There are good people who do bad things, and bad people who do good things.

Tim Tebow happens to be a good person who does good things because of his faith. In a Christians mind, no one is good. Anything good that they do comes from God. The Bible even teaches that "As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;" Romans 3:10.
(Looked it up for this conversation)

Hey, I'm not here to proseletize, but you should understand the motivations of people. For Tim Tebow, he does not consider himself good for doing those things. He does them because...in 2 Corinthians 14 it says , "For the love of Christ compels us..."

I know you aren't here to be preached to, and I don't mean to do that. But I think a lot of people misunderstand why Tebow does a lot of the stuff he does.

I apologize if you are put off....it wasn't my intention.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 2:55 pm to
No I'm not dismissing his faith at all. If that's what motivates him to do good things, that's great. I don't care what motivates someone to do good as long as they do good.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Tebow isn't a good guy, he is a great guy... but there are 100s of other great athletes doing great things and that needs more exposure... we are 10 years removed and still talking about him. i'm fine with the faith narrative just change the characters some.



I wish they would spread it around. There are a lot of good players doing good things for people, and they should be highlighted. Instead we get all the negative stories about athletes. And Auburn poster posted a story the other week about cam Newton being called to meet a kid in a wheel chair, and wanted an autographed clete. Cam gave him one and then took his other clete off, autographed it and presented the kid with it.

There is a whole lot more stories out there...we just don't hear them.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Sounds like most of the ones I've ever known.

Unfortunately there are a lot of "Christians" who use language like that and see nothing wrong with it. One last "preachy" thing then I will shut up, unless you want to talk about it further...

Christian means "Christ like" and as a Christian we are called to be set apart...or different. We are supposed to be different. I am not saying the above poster is not a Christian. That is between him and God. I am saying, if he is a Christian, then he needs to make his words and actions match.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9548 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 3:00 pm to
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You don't get to tell someone whether or not they are Christian OR what gender they are.


I’m not. In the case of the former scripture does so, as to the latter science does.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Perhaps those who believed these things to be immoral were wrong all along and society has evolved to see the error of its ways.

Understood. But society determines morals for the world, but the Bible and God determine true morals. What might be morally acceptable in todays world may not be morally acceptable in God's eyes.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
2610 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 3:07 pm to
I hate him because he was an opponent in the SEC. And we got screwed out of that game
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
2517 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 3:08 pm to
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I hate him because he was an opponent in the SEC. And we got screwed out of that game

Yes y'all did. That was highway robbery.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51460 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 4:30 pm to
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Back home for the weekend and was watching an episode of Fixer Upper. My parents watch it a lot. Anyways they were rebuilding a home for two terminally ill kids who were wheelchair bound With the help of Tim they raised enough money to pay off the family's mortgage and also designed a wheelchair friendly field in the backyard so they could experience sports.


The world could stand a lot more people like Tim Tebow, never understood the hate towards the man........, maybe it's because he's not ashamed of his Christian faith and his willingness to share the good news.
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
7433 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 4:31 pm to
frick Tebow! He didn't play at Alabama or Auburn! GTFO!!!

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51460 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Understood. But society determines morals for the world, but the Bible and God determine true morals. What might be morally acceptable in todays world may not be morally acceptable in God's eyes.


God's truth rings like like a bell in your soul, there's no doubt when you hear it. Society/modern culture is like a hot iron that is continually searing the conscience of all who are exposed to the poison. Only God's word, the Holy Spirit and the blood of Jesus Christ can equip a person with the knowledge to overcome the temptations of this increasingly wicked world.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 4:57 pm to
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Understood. But society determines morals for the world, but the Bible and God determine true morals. What might be morally acceptable in todays world may not be morally acceptable in God's eyes



Who's god? What might be acceptable to your god might not be acceptable to someone else's god.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 4:57 pm to
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as to the latter science does.



Science has NEVER determined gender.


But since you bring it up, how does science determine the sex of an individual? Do you even know?
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 5:00 pm
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9548 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:02 pm to
I think from context he would be referencing the Christian god. I would also assume he doesn’t really care what another god’s position might be. Then again, this is probably an A and B conversation so I should just amscray.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:03 pm to
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I think from context he would be referencing the Christian god. I would also assume he doesn’t really care what another god’s position might be. Then again, this is probably an A and B conversation so I should just amscray.



Ok. But if you want to say your god is important enough to make up the morals of society, then so is everyone else's.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
40175 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:06 pm to
Who’s hating on Tebow?

Anyone who hates Tebow is just a bitter a-hole
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9548 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:29 pm to
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Science has NEVER determined gender. But since you bring it up, how does science determine the sex of an individual? Do you even know?


As for gender I have no interest or energy to argue the absurdity of the social construct of gender identity and I sure as hell won’t get into a conversation that allows for dozens of gender varieties as that is patently stupid. It is, however, despite claims to the contrary a perfectly acceptable synonym for sex.

When it comes to sex, clearly science differentiates based on chromosomes. Despite the very rare anomaly this is more than a little dependable. At the end of the day, however, it’s generally done in the birthing room when the doctor observes either a wee wee or a vagina. Pretty straightforward but I’m sure I’ve walked into whatever trap you set so fire away.
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:28 pm to
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But society determines morals for the world, but the Bible and God determine true morals. What might be morally acceptable in todays world may not be morally acceptable in God's eyes.


That of course is utter nonsense.

But have been reading some interesting articles and listening to podcasts about the metaphorical truth of religion. Just because it is utter fiction doesn't mean that its adherents and practitioners don't gain evolutionary advantages by practicing and believing and changing their lives in adherence to the "truths" of those fictions.

Believing in God isn't smart because it increases your chances of an afterlife. It's smart because it improves your life on here on earth, and makes you a better person, even though you've only found the truth in a metaphor, not the truth in reality.
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 9:29 pm
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