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re: Three candidates for greatest team ever
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:30 am to Globetrotter747
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:30 am to Globetrotter747
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Miami also had Oklahoma’s number, handing them their only loss each season from 1985-87. Miami dominated the Nebraska and Oklahoma option teams.
1995 Nebraska’s schedule fit like a glove. Beat the same teams you have always thumped in the Big 8 with the coaches who gave you the most trouble gone, nothing out of conference, and a bowl opponent with no interest in defense.
Osborne’s 1987 team, for example, was 10-0 before facing one Oklahoma’s best teams. And if they had won, they would have had to play one of Miami’s best teams in the Orange Bowl.
1995 Nebraska dealt with no such animals.
Jesus Christ, Nebraska ran for 200 yards against a Miami defense with Ray Lewis and Warren Sapp the previous year and that was with Tommie Frazier coming off the bench in the second half. And they ran for over 200 yards and out-played Florida State two years before. The previous Nebraska teams from the '80s didn't have anywhere near the team speed that the '90s teams with Tommie Frazier, Lawrence Phillips, and Ahman Green did.
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Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:08 am to MOJO_ERASER
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Best defensive performance in a NC game goes to my Sooners in 2000
0 defensive points given up .
Sorry Charlie, the best defensive performance in a NC game goes to Alabama in 2011. 0 points allowed and the opposing team only ran 1 play in Bama territory.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:11 am to Shea Vinnerbush
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if usc had won that game to win a “third” title in a row
Yeah, playing for their "third" title in a row, yet USC has zero BCS Championships. Hard to win three in row when they didn't even win one.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:26 am to anc
95 Nebraska
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LSU.
Sorry LSU fans but I just can't see ranking a team that barely beat a horrible Texas team then whined about being stuffy for 2 weeks as the greatest team of all time
01 Miami
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LSU.
Sorry LSU fans but I just can't see ranking a team that barely beat a horrible Texas team then whined about being stuffy for 2 weeks as the greatest team of all time
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:20 am to anc
LSU gave up 38 pts to Vandy, auto disqualification from the discussion
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:56 am to Globetrotter747
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You mean Top 10 Kansas and Kansas State?
They finished in the top 10 that year, no?
Nebraska validated their dominance by what they did to one of Spurrier's best teams ever in the national championship game. End of story. I thought Florida would beat them. Florida got obliterated. Nobody did that to Spurrier back then.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 10:18 am to hookem33
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Sorry LSU fans but I just can't see ranking a team that barely beat a horrible Texas team then whined about being stuffy for 2 weeks as the greatest team of all time
Texas was the first game of the season and never had the ball with a chance to take the lead in the 2nd half. Two 8-4 teams had the ball at the end of the game with a chance to take the lead and beat 2001 Miami on their final possession. So by your own criteria, LSU would be ahead of Miami.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:37 am to Toroballistic
quote:are you trying to say usc didn’t win a bcs national championship ? They beat us in 2004 badly .
Yeah, playing for their "third" title in a row, yet USC has zero BCS Championships. Hard to win three in row when they didn't even win one.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:40 am to Big EZ Tiger
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For comparison, LSU beat 5 of the final top 8 ranked teams which all had at least 11 wins each and no team ever had the ball with a chance to take the lead on LSU in the 2nd half. And of course, LSU blew out defending national champion Clemson who was on a 29-game winning streak.
Yea but the LSU defense was not as good as NU and NU at the time scored 50-60 a game running the football …. You can not ignore how impressive that is . LSU was not a complete team NU was .
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 11:41 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:43 am to MOJO_ERASER
Also don’t understand people trying to say right now this team would beat that team in this era because none of you have any clue that’s true . The game was played differently and it’s played differently now . The body types were different . Nebraska would run it down most people’s throats with the way defense are set up to defend passing and vice versa so no one really knows shite … it’s just a way you can try and win an argument .
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 11:44 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:59 am to Uhtred
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It's a good question, because it was a great team. But that year was not a normal year for so many reasons, none of which were Bama’s fault.
- There were no true road games.
I respectfully and slightly disagree that the last two were factors but do agree the lack of having to play in any true road environments removed an element that made road game significantly easier for Alabama that season. On the other hand, I'm not sure given the years most of Alabama's road opponents were having that year a full stadium would have made that huge of a difference.
I do get the argument that 2020 was a very odd year for many reasons and am not necessarily saying they were any better than the 3 teams listed in the OP but that team was certainly very close. That team's average margin of victory was 3rd only to 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami on that list
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:08 pm to Toroballistic
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USC has zero BCS Championships.
You might need to check your math here
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:26 pm to skipjackbama
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Bammer is The King of CFB. The GOAT CFB Program
This thread is about the greatest team of all time not program. Sit down and shut up.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:28 pm to MOJO_ERASER
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Yea but the LSU defense was not as good as NU and NU at the time scored 50-60 a game running the football …. You can not ignore how impressive that is . LSU was not a complete team NU was
Most complete team isn't necessarily the best. The LSU offense was the best ever and the defense was still very good when it mattered.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:53 pm to Bench McElroy
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The previous Nebraska teams from the '80s didn't have anywhere near the team speed that the '90s teams with Tommie Frazier, Lawrence Phillips, and Ahman Green did.
Uh, try Turner Gill, Mike Rozier, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, and Irving Fryar. And OL like Remington and Steinkuhler.
Too bad they couldn’t just tee off on Kansas and had to go to the Orange Bowl.
The ‘70s and ‘80s Huskers played better teams.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 1:28 pm to Toroballistic
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Sorry Charlie, the best defensive performance in a NC game goes to Alabama in 2011. 0 points allowed and the opposing team only ran 1 play in Bama territory.
You’re going to have a hard time getting someone to believe thag with how bad LSU an offense was that year … FSU was either the top or number two .
Posted on 11/3/23 at 1:31 pm to MOJO_ERASER
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For comparison, LSU beat 5 of the final top 8 ranked teams which all had at least 11 wins each and no team ever had the ball with a chance to take the lead on LSU in the 2nd half. And of course, LSU blew out defending national champion Clemson who was on a 29-game winning streak.
Yea but the LSU defense was not as good as NU and NU at the time scored 50-60 a game running the football …. You can not ignore how impressive that is . LSU was not a complete team NU was .
I was comparing LSU to Miami. What LSU did with that schedule was so much harder and so much more impressive.
95 Nebraska was the most dominant team that I've ever seen from start to finish. LSU's schedule was tougher and they had the best season of all time competiton-wise when it comes to how many ranked teams they beat, but Nebraska was a machine, so I have no issues with the hype that 95 Nebraska got.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/3/23 at 1:38 pm to deputyreb
Those Nebraska teams were insane. Tennessee and Florida were both loaded back then with future NFL starters.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 2:44 pm to EGO3x
COVID year football was weak. That shite season should not count for anything
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:58 pm to WhiskeyRiverBlues
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Those Nebraska teams were insane. Tennessee and Florida were both loaded back then with future NFL starters.
1995 Nebraska had 1 first round draft pick and faced 1 first round draft pick in the 1996 NFL Draft - and they were both busts. 2019 LSU had 5 first round picks and faced 12 first round draft picks from the 2020 NFL Draft - and many of those guys are among the best in the league.
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