re: The "you already lost to LSU" argument

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(all of this is hypothetical of course).

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Hypothetically is OK when you're arguing about the future I guess but we know for a fact that Bama didn't drop to 5th. We dropped to 3rd based on the BCS and voters. Is that what pisses you off??? Yes, based on VTs schedule and who/how/when they lost as well as where the rankings fell, it would be complete and utter garbage for them to jump us at this point. Now had we fallen to 5th or 6th, your argument has merit. As it sits now though it just seems like you're mad that #1 we only dropped one spot and #2 if you lose Friday you don't have the same luxury we did by losing because you're probably out of the BCSCG picture.

That's just college football.

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That's a helluva drive from the 25.

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Just how far are you supposed to drive from the 25 ? Or is losing 10 yards in overtime the same in your world as trying more field goals?

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Hey dumas, that's not my logic. THAT'S the LSU fans on this board's logic. EVERYONE on here keeps talking about Bama should be out b/c we were AT HOME and it was for ALL THE MARBLES!!! However, when it comes to teams like Okie State (Actually insert any team not named Bama) according to you specifically that same logic shouldn't apply.

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So your applying someone else's argument to me despite the fact that I have clearly laid out my argument?

Maybe if I type slower . . . .

Everyone has a loss besides LSU, so you look at other factors to determine the tie breaker. Ignore whatever else has been posted by whoever. Focus on what I'm saying.

Those factors are quality wins, losses, strength of schedule (and I would include whether the team wins their conference, but I'll refrain for the sake of argument.)

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Please tell me you're joking. Would you rather go through the SEC schedule we played or that schedule they played.

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Their schedule. The SEC is way down this season and you only play 2 of the top 4 SEC teams not named Alabama.

Alabama has played two good teams and went 1-1. Penn State and Auburn are not going to be ranked by the end of the season.

OSU will have played at least three.

Honestly, Alabama has played the best team of the two, but since you lost, it kind of deflates that argument.

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And I realize it's not your grandaddy's Penn St, but they are at least as good as Arizona which was OK St's OCC game. Give me a freaking break.

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But they are not as good as Kansas State, OU, and Baylor. Hell, Penn State isn't has good as Texas A&M.

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And I don't care if it was home, away, or neutral, when you play the #1 team and lose by a field goal in OT, that loss is better than a terrible ISU team. Not even a discussion about that really.

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Yes, Alabama has the better loss. The problem is that Alabama loses the two other categories I cited above:

Quality Wins - OSU
Quality Loss - Alabama
Strength of Schedule - OSU

(And, again, I'm leaving out conference results for sake of argument.)

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I know we didn't, and I know that it hurts your argument which is why you didn't want to answer the question. Their schedule is not better than ours and our loss is better than theirs and it's not really close.

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Their schedule is absolutely better yours. Your loss is better. Their quality wins are better.

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The people voting them 7th won't have them in the top 3......ever.

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They don't need all of them. Where is the breakdown of votes. I'd be interested to see it.

Pretty sure we did. [/quote]

You did. The point was how many opportunities did you have to get there?

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That's as bad as Arky fans saying they are 3-1 lately against us even though they are also 3-5 against us lately.

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Not really.

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Not when both teams get to do it.

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The point was is skews the stats for both teams because both teams get to do it.

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Actually we did that, not yall.

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Actually no. Did you watch the same game? 12 men in the huddle called on Bama.

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How many times did Bama do that?

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Drove the ball once. Picked off two passes one went inside the 20. LSU did the same. Bama missed their opportunity. LSU didn't. That's the game.

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That's a helluva drive from the 25.

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Eighteen yards forward is better than twelve back.

I know they don't need all of them. But for every vote OSU gets at at 4, they need 1 more 2nd place vote. 2 more to balance out 5th place votes and so on. It isn't just "oh hey OSU just needs 25% of 2nd place votes. They will need way more than that. AND, where is the talk of the Midwest voters? And the SEC haters? Cause not a single one of them has Alabama worse than 3rd. And I'm pretty sure they all voted for the new results.

I think Alabama deserves to go because they are better, IMO. But I won't be surprised or pissed for too long if OSU goes. I realize how people view the SEC and I can't imagine TWO teams being in the NCG. Seriously, just think about that.

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But for every vote OSU gets at at 4, they need 1 more 2nd place vote. 2 more to balance out 5th place votes and so on.

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Right.

Did you see my breakdown earlier? I don't think OSU comes close so long as Stanford and VT win out.

By the same token, I think its almost guaranteed to happen if both lose.

As much as Bama fans keep crying about LSU NOT wanting to play Bama again, you guys are just as afraid to play us again.

JUST ADMIT IT!!! The thought of losing to Les Miles TWICE.