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re: The "We Are Alabama" Factor?
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:29 am to KPCrimson
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:29 am to KPCrimson
Quit being stupid bammernecks. LSU's worst period of football was from '89-94. It was awful. Gerry Dinardo actully pulled LSU from the ashes. He had a 10 win season in his second year. His 2nd year could be compared with Saban's 2nd year at Bama (yeah I said it, Bama didn't have to play Florida in the regular season so they were able to be highly ranked all of the 2nd half of the season. If Herb Tyler, QB, doesn't get hurt vs. Bama LSU goes 11-1 in 2006). Saban won the SEC in his 2nd year at LSU and beat a team that would have played for the National Title with a win in the SEC championship game (UTenn). LSU's 2001 team was filled with NFL talent recruited by Dinardo, not Saban. Saban did a better job with this Bama team than that LSU team.
What I am saying is that LSU's program was being rebuilt before Saban arrived. He did not magically take LSU where they have never been by himself, and everything must crumble because he left. You beat us this year, congrats, but how come ole' dummy Miles is outrecruiting Saban after Saban has been knighted the Bear's son born by immaculate conception? LSU ain't going nowhere.
What I am saying is that LSU's program was being rebuilt before Saban arrived. He did not magically take LSU where they have never been by himself, and everything must crumble because he left. You beat us this year, congrats, but how come ole' dummy Miles is outrecruiting Saban after Saban has been knighted the Bear's son born by immaculate conception? LSU ain't going nowhere.
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Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
dont compare bama's facilities until you have seen them! Nicest stadium in the SEC! and way bigger fan base than any SEC school. Florida may be good but they are not bama!
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:33 am to krrp1212
"We are Alabama" cracks me up. If you also mean the biggest cheaters in college football, then you would be correct.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:35 am to rolltide1283
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I give all the credit to Joe Kines for us winning 10 in 2005. Shula is a classy guy and I respect everything he did here as a player but he was a horrible HC.
You see KPC, this is the response I was expecting. That's why I made the Shula comment. Bama fans were the ones who loved Shula in '05, and crucified him a year later. You asked about what it was like when Shula led Bama to the Cotton. It wasn't quite like you think, we knew that Bama was a fraud when it came to being Top Five that year, but I don't think most people thought you'd get waxed by TT. Tech wasn't thought of quite as highly as they are right now.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:37 am to krrp1212
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Florida may be good but they are not bama!
Florida's current state of the program ------> here
Bama's current state of the program -------> way down here
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:39 am to krrp1212
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dont compare bama's facilities until you have seen them! Nicest stadium in the SEC! and way bigger fan base than any SEC school. Florida may be
SEC champs but they are not bama!
Fixed that. Also, i've seen Bamas facilties, they're very nice. So is BHGriffen, Sanford, Jordan-Hare, RJRRazorback Stadium... you get the point. How do you count an entire fan base?
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:39 am to Choupique19
This is some funny stuff. This argument could go on forever.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:40 am to bgtiger
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we knew that Bama was a fraud when it came to being Top Five that year, but I don't think most people thought you'd get waxed by TT. Tech wasn't thought of quite as highly as they are right now.
I think we were definitely a top 10 team that year but only because our D was amazing. If our offense could have scored, we would have been top 5 IMO. The Prothro injury hurt us bad that year.
I knew we had a chance going into the TT game but I didn't expect our D to hold them to 10. That D can be compared to the 1992 version but it's too bad we didn't have an O to go with it.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:41 am to Crimsoncutie98
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This argument could go on forever.
You know it will!
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:43 am to rolltide1283
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The Prothro injury hurt us bad that year.
I think your O-Line was the biggest problem that season. (See the Auburn game.)
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:43 am to bgtiger
Oh I know. Oh well, gives me something to read while I am supposed to be working. 
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:46 am to Bankshot
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I think your O-Line was the biggest problem that season. (See the Auburn game.)
You're right. Bob Connelly was a terrible OL coach.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:48 am to rolltide1283
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Bob Connelly was a terrible OL coach.
His line did give up a hundred sacks to the Barn that year.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 12:00 pm to Choupique19
quote:Was it the 4-7 season or the 3-8 season that Dinardo brought that rebuilt LSU?
What I am saying is that LSU's program was being rebuilt before Saban arrived.
quote:No he didn't magically do it. Like it or not, he is the best coach in College Football. He was then and is now. That's what great coaches do, they win.
He did not magically take LSU where they have never been by himself
quote:Stop being a burnt corndog.
Quit being stupid bammernecks
quote:Outrecruiting him where? If you mean while he was at LSU, that is a ridiculous statement. Saban came into a losing program and had to rebuild it. Miles came into an Elite program and had to sustain it. Like it or not that is a big difference(I take nothing away from Miles, it takes a great coach to sustain an elite program). Now if you are talking about outrecruiting Saban while at Bama is a big stretch. The recruiting season is not over yet and, right now, depending on how both teams close they will both finish some combination of #1 and 2, imo.
You beat us this year, congrats, but how come ole' dummy Miles is outrecruiting Saban
Posted on 12/23/08 at 12:05 pm to Bankshot
quote:Pro going down hurt WAY worse. We were averaging 30 points a game before he went down. He gave us a threat that every team had to focus on. He could go the distance at any point in time. When he left, not including the homecoming game against Utah St, we only scored 5 offensive td's the rest of the year. His big play ability and leadership on the team could not be matched.
The Prothro injury hurt us bad that year.
I think your O-Line was the biggest problem that season. (See the Auburn game.)
Posted on 12/23/08 at 12:12 pm to KPCrimson
The biggest problem for '05 Bama was probably injuries. I think Bama lost two olinemen late in the season including one of the Britt brothers. That was actually a lot of their problems in '06 too. Lack of Oline depth and injuries. Injuries can totally derail a team in season for a talented team without sufficient depth. It killed our D this year and we knew going in we couldn't afford injuries. Bama this year was in the same boat but avoided the injuries. Just look at how badly Bama struggled against Tulane with Smith and Caldwell out.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 12:15 pm to KPCrimson
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Was it the 4-7 season or the 3-8 season that Dinardo brought that rebuilt LSU?
It was the 7-4-1, 10-2, and 9-3 seasons of 95,96, and 97. Dinardo stocked LSU full of talent with guys like Rohan Davey, Josh Reed, Ryan Clark, Bradie James, etc. He also punked some coach at Michigan St. in one of those bowl games.
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No he didn't magically do it. Like it or not, he is the best coach in College Football. He was then and is now. That's what great coaches do, they win.
Pete Carroll disagrees.
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Outrecruiting him where?
In recruiting right now. While Gumps have claimed Bama the ruler of the universe for now and forever, LSU has the #1 ranked class in the country.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 12:18 pm to bgtiger
Ok I have just read all the posts on this topic.
Bama has a rich history we all know that, but I have to agree that just because your alabama doesn't entitle you to anything. The nature of the SEC has changed dramatically since the 60, 70, 80, and before 92. For bama fans to think you are going to go another run like that is very delusional. To many good teams now for any kind of run like that.
LSU has a rich history as but I don't believe that Saban was the best coach in LSU history. He was a very good coach but he only won 10 games twice while being at LSU. Saban did a lot of great things for LSU, and LSU did great things for Saban. This argument is pointless. bama fans are just as passoinate as LSU and I agree with an earlier poster that even if our history was just a rich bama fans aren't going to say so. Its not a fluke that LSU had won many games before saban arrived. bama fans like to hold that saban shite over LSU fans heads. Guess what when he has an avarage season this year at bama like he did after the 10 win seasons that LSU, you gumps will be singing a different tune about your so-called god of a coach.
Oh and last thing, I will give you one win every seven years. LSU will be back to kicking your arse next year. Hope you enjoy it this year.
Bama has a rich history we all know that, but I have to agree that just because your alabama doesn't entitle you to anything. The nature of the SEC has changed dramatically since the 60, 70, 80, and before 92. For bama fans to think you are going to go another run like that is very delusional. To many good teams now for any kind of run like that.
LSU has a rich history as but I don't believe that Saban was the best coach in LSU history. He was a very good coach but he only won 10 games twice while being at LSU. Saban did a lot of great things for LSU, and LSU did great things for Saban. This argument is pointless. bama fans are just as passoinate as LSU and I agree with an earlier poster that even if our history was just a rich bama fans aren't going to say so. Its not a fluke that LSU had won many games before saban arrived. bama fans like to hold that saban shite over LSU fans heads. Guess what when he has an avarage season this year at bama like he did after the 10 win seasons that LSU, you gumps will be singing a different tune about your so-called god of a coach.
Oh and last thing, I will give you one win every seven years. LSU will be back to kicking your arse next year. Hope you enjoy it this year.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 12:22 pm to Geauxtigers468
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I have just read all the posts on this topic.
wow.
Posted on 12/23/08 at 12:33 pm to Choupique19
quote:That still went 4-7 and 3-8.
Dinardo stocked LSU full of talent with guys like Rohan Davey, Josh Reed, Ryan Clark, Bradie James, etc.
quote:Who got punked last? The irony....
He also punked some coach at Michigan St. in one of those bowl games
quote:Maybe but it'd be a pretty good argument.
Pete Carroll disagrees.
quote:I did say recruiting wasn't over yet didn't I? I'd be interested to see how that ranking looks if Bama closes with Massie 5*, Dre 5*, Myles 5*, Patrick 4*, Cox 4*, and heaven help this board and all humanity, gulp, RR 5*. Not over yet.
In recruiting right now. While Gumps have claimed Bama the ruler of the universe for now and forever, LSU has the #1 ranked class in the country.
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