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re: The "targeting" call will be forgotten in short order...

Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2005 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:21 pm to
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I doubt it will be forgotten by Arizona St fans. I can honestly say that was the worst call I've ever seen in all of my years of watching football...and I'm 55 years old. I've yet to see a commentator or even NFL officials who disagree.
It wasn't even the worst no call on targeting in the football game.

How did you feel about the wrestling move by the AZU OL to lift Scattebo off the ground and pull him into the end zone? 100% a penalty that was not called.

Or the AZU fake punt that had an AZU offensive lineman further downfield than the receiver, or the AZU TD pass with an offensive lineman downfield in the end zone. 100% those are penalties that were not called.

Or the penalty called on the first punt when the punter had clearly moved outside the tackle box, which should have been a no call.

There were plenty of other no calls through out the game. Just live every other game this year.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5289 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:28 pm to
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I can honestly say that was the worst call I've ever seen in all of my years of watching football...and I'm 55 years old.


You're old enough to have watched that robbery from GT in Athens a month ago, so I don't believe you when you say it was "the worst call I've ever seen".
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
11959 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:29 pm to
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I’ve seen at least a dozen calls this year alone that were malicious hits with intent to harm.


I don’t think so.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8763 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:33 pm to
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He did not lead with the crown of his helmet. It was helmet-to-helmet but he led with his facemask.


He was defenseless, which means initial contact to the head neck area is targeting (by rule, defenseless eliminates need for the "crown/intentional" distinction).
Posted by 4EsandATutti
Member since Nov 2024
122 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:34 pm to
If you really don’t want it to be forgotten then it needs a nickname.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5289 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:37 pm to
Defenseless means they did not have time to become a runner. The receiver clearly had time to catch the ball, turn and step. They were a runner.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8763 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:43 pm to
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The receiver clearly had time to catch the ball, turn and step. They were a runner.


So if he'd dropped it after the hit it would've been a fumble? 99% of the time it would be called incomplete in that situation. He was defenseless.


That's really the argument....defenseless or non-defenseless.
Posted by Caimani
Member since Sep 2023
634 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:44 pm to
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I can honestly say that was the worst call I've ever seen in all of my years of watching football


It’s the second worst call…the worst was the no-call targeting that saved UGA from a well deserved loss to GA Tech. How embarrassing
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5289 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:46 pm to
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In college football, a receiver becomes a "runner" after a catch once they have secured control of the ball and taken a clear action towards gaining additional yardage, like turning upfield, taking a step forward, or attempting to evade a defender, signifying that they are no longer in the act of catching the ball and are now actively trying to advance the play.
Posted by Rubicon
Shenandoah Mountain
Member since Oct 2013
375 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:46 pm to
By definition of the current rules, it was 100% targeting. What would have happened after a correct targeting call is ASU would likely have won the game in regulation.

The question is: who all got paid?
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
1607 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:50 pm to
The replay official should be fired. He obviously can't use logic in applying rules.
Defenseless player can be a receiver who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself.
Targeting can include leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38105 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:53 pm to
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forceful contact” to be targeting, which I don’t think it was.


The wr was obliterated.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38105 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:54 pm to
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There was no launch.


Irrelevant

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He did not lead with the crown of his helmet.


Irrelevant

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It was helmet-to-helmet


Relevant
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43177 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:03 pm to
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I can honestly say that was the worst call I've ever seen in all of my years of watching football



I'm not sure that I'd go that far, but what's the point of having 'targeting' if that's not targeting?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70171 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:05 pm to
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He did not lead with the crown of his helmet.


False. I can't believe people are disputing this. He literally led with the crown of his helmet. It's not debatable, it's on video.

Regarding what people keep bringing up about the ASU OL dragging the RB over the goal line, that also was a bad no-call, but that's not reviewable to my knowledge. And the fact the refs on the field didn't initially call targetting isn't what is so outrageous. Refs miss shite all the time, in real time. The fact it was reviewed and the replay official said it was not targetting is what is so fricked up and unbelievable.


Posted by WoodyOrnamental
Member since Sep 2021
1360 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:15 pm to
I'll never forget. Just add it to the other games tx was bailed out of.
Posted by BigHorn69
Member since Nov 2024
148 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:22 pm to
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I'll never forget. Just add it to the other games tx was bailed out of


It's the second of the month and your rent is overdue
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38105 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:28 pm to
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I'm not sure that I'd go that far, but what's the point of having 'targeting' if that's not targeting?


Exactly. They made that rule for that exact kind of hit.
Posted by tallamander34
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2017
1360 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:30 pm to
All you bastards sugar coating that is ridiculous. I’ve seen way way WAY softer shite than that and it gets called no question. It’s so fricking obvious it was targeting like if it was flipped narratives, then Texas fans would be in here bitching like a diabetic at Disneyland
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5289 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:32 pm to
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They made that rule for that exact kind of hit.


No they didn't

They made the rule up to protect players from malicious hits. Not to penalize a kid for making a tackle in a bang bang play.

Taffee obviously should have stopped, waited for the receiver to signal they they were prepared for the hit, and then proceeded.
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