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re: The SEC not taking it easy on players?
Posted on 8/24/12 at 11:59 am to TennMike
Posted on 8/24/12 at 11:59 am to TennMike
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I remember hearing Janoris Jenkins saying that if Urban was still the coach, Jenkins wouldn't have gotten kicked out of UF. I wonder when all of this will catch up to Meyer
With Delaney grabbing the spray bottle to fend off the other pussies of the B1G, I doubt it.
Back when I used to follow recruiting, I remember hearing leaked horror stories of Urban being on the trail and just doing nothing but negative recruiting. Not even really trying to sell Florida but just talk about how everywhere else was worse. And for AU fans he did it the most to Auburn when Malzahn showed up if I remember my stories straight. Which would make a lot of sense. Which when the Matt Hyes article came out a few months ago it didn't surprise me. The only thing that did was the talk out how certain players didn't have to practice.
The funny thing for me though is I had a friend that was an Ohio St. fan going to UA last year and when talks of Urban going there were surfacing, I tried to them him that "you may think that it would be a good choice, but with the situation that y'all are just coming out of he is not going to help you in the appearance department." Of course he didn't listen and already it sounds like Urban is up to his old ways.
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:03 pm to ProjectP2294
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If you think that this is the only legal benefits they get above and beyond what regular students are afforded, then you are too ignorant on this topic for me to continue discussing with you.
What else substantial do they get?
I remember players getting scooters around campus at LSU, they probably get football tickets for their family and friends as well.
What am I missing?
Please educate my ignorance.
ETA: 40 pairs of tennis shoes.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:06 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Hugo, since LSU waived their Bayou Bengal Legacy for the children of alums I have to pay a total of 20,000 every 4 months since I'm OOS. that's school tuition, OOS fee, parking, food, housing, books, lab fees, academic excellence fee, bs fees,
So these kids get in for free and not only that, but have tutors, guidance counselors, and Psychiatrist readily available where normal students have to fork over more cash or even leave the campus to sit in a waiting room for such luxury.
They have barbers, nutritionist, dentist's, doctors and surgeons and all are covered by the school.
So these kids get in for free and not only that, but have tutors, guidance counselors, and Psychiatrist readily available where normal students have to fork over more cash or even leave the campus to sit in a waiting room for such luxury.
They have barbers, nutritionist, dentist's, doctors and surgeons and all are covered by the school.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:09 pm to memphisplaya
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Hugo, since LSU waived their Bayou Bengal Legacy for the children of alums I have to pay a total of 20,000 every 4 months since I'm OOS. that's school tuition, OOS fee, parking, food, housing, books, lab fees, academic excellence fee, bs fees,
Dayum
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normal students have to fork over more cash or even leave the campus to sit in a waiting room for such luxury.
Not really, my mental and physical health care was free at LSU as a student and the wait wasn't bad at all.
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:19 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Actually it's covered in your fees. Something FB athletes don't pay for.
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:22 pm to memphisplaya
The thread has derailed.
My point was the schools and NCAA have too much leverage over these players and their future.
More so than the average student on an academic scholarship.
If you guys want to justify that with some extra "perks" the players get, it gets ambiguous.
Either way, the players don't have much of a choice.
Let's say a student athlete paid their own way without scholarship, wouldn't the same rules and standards apply to them as well?
My point is the players have no way around it other than simply not being on the team.
This can be burdensome to the NFL caliber player because they are shackled by school and the NCAA without an alternative avenue to pursue their career.
Boo fricking hoo, I know.
Just my opinion.
My point was the schools and NCAA have too much leverage over these players and their future.
More so than the average student on an academic scholarship.
If you guys want to justify that with some extra "perks" the players get, it gets ambiguous.
Either way, the players don't have much of a choice.
Let's say a student athlete paid their own way without scholarship, wouldn't the same rules and standards apply to them as well?
My point is the players have no way around it other than simply not being on the team.
This can be burdensome to the NFL caliber player because they are shackled by school and the NCAA without an alternative avenue to pursue their career.
Boo fricking hoo, I know.
Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:24 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Yes and 100% of the NFL's players come from NCAA schools.
But that's by the NFL's choice, the NCAA nor individual schools can dictate any such thing, obviously.
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I don't think this is correct.
I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the roster of most SEC teams wouldn't be able to afford college even if they did qualify without the football scholarship.
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Even if it's unreasonable?
define unreasonable. I don't find
don't smoke pot
don't beat your woman
don't get arrested
to be unreasonable.
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:25 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Not really, my mental and physical health care was free at LSU as a student and the wait wasn't bad at all.
No it wasn't. I think my health center fees at UA were like $300 per semester. You pay that regardless of if you utilize the services or not. I'm sure LSU is pretty much the same.
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:27 pm to Robot Santa
Must have been covered in my scholarship.
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:33 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
I do think that the comprehensive mandatory drug testing is ridiculous though. They should all be tested regularly for PEDs because that actually relates to football. If anything else shows up, they should have to go see a counselor or something I guess, but not face suspension.
That said, with the current policies in place, I don't feel much sympathy for the guys who keep getting chances and keep pissing them away (no pun intended).
That said, with the current policies in place, I don't feel much sympathy for the guys who keep getting chances and keep pissing them away (no pun intended).
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:34 pm to Robot Santa
I concur.
Posted on 8/24/12 at 1:00 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Those same 90% would not have a chance of getting into college if they couldn't play football. I don't think this is correct.
It may not be 90%, but a whole lot of athletes would not be admitted to school if not for athletics. They should be very grateful for all the "privaledges" afforded them.
Entrance Requirements to play Athletics for a SEC Athlete:
Complete a minimum of 14 academic core courses
Achieve a minimum 2.5 grade point avg in core courses.
Achieve a minimum SAT score of 820 or a minimum average ACT score of 17.
Entrance requirements for a regular student entering LSU:
•Incoming freshman must have at least a 3.0 academic gpa calculated from academic core courses.
•Students must also have completed at least 19 units of new Fall 2012 college-preparatory courses.
•Applicants must have a minimum of SAT score (critical reading and math) of 1030 or at least a composite ACT score of 22
Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:34 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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He instituted it soon after arriving at AU. I think it was his second year, 1982, but it may have been his first in 1981.
But yeah, he was the first. Before Dye, no SEC football programs had any type of drug testing.
I wonder if it had anything to do with Tony Fitton "The Godfather" of steroids working at Auburn University and getting caught trying to take them out of the country to England in 1981.
Fitton also said that he advised or sold drugs to athletes and coaches at Auburn, Baylor, Maryland, Nebraska, South Carolina, Virginia and Wisconsin, among others.
Maybe Dye was trying to clean up the mess.
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