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re: The SEC gauntlet schedule mythos
Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:58 pm to VYForever
Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:58 pm to VYForever
This thread currently has 20 pages worth of Texas and OU fans repeatedly trying to refute the notion that the conference that has dominated college football for decades will be more difficult than a conference that has been an also ran at the highest levels of competition during the same timeframe.
Say what you will about those guys, but they have some elite level defense mechanisms going. Elite.
Say what you will about those guys, but they have some elite level defense mechanisms going. Elite.
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:59 pm to Boomer Sooner 1890
I’m truly shocked that these Texas and OU fans are claiming that the SEC will be no more difficult than their Big 12 schedules.
There are more than twice the amount of players from the SEC (505) than the Big 12 (207) in the NFL. The talent level across the teams not named Vanderbilt is at a different level.
I thought that was something UT and OU fans were excited about.
There are more than twice the amount of players from the SEC (505) than the Big 12 (207) in the NFL. The talent level across the teams not named Vanderbilt is at a different level.
I thought that was something UT and OU fans were excited about.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:02 pm to Topwater Trout
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If OU and Texas both go 7-5 or 8-4 what will your conclusion be?
My conclusion would be Texas shite the bed or Ewers missed most of the season. I'd conclude OU replaced all 5 OL and couldn't run or pass block and the first year starter at QB underwhelmed. I'd conclude their records would be roughly the same in the Big 12.
Not sure how much CFB you follow, but last year Texas was 8-5 and OU was 6-7.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:03 pm to Uhtred
I'm not shocked in the least that a very large percentage of posters on this site struggle with reading comphrehension.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:05 pm to BamaGradinTn
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See, you just insist on continuing to demonstrate your cluelessness. It's not whether or not Florida can be a power in 2024. It's whether or not over the next 10 years you'll have to contend with the possibility that they can return to an elite status that TCU can only dream of.
So i should worry because even though they have shown no signs of improving, they did it in the past so they can do it again. Should i also be worried about Nebraska, Notre Dame and USC winning the National championship in the next 10 years?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:08 pm to dkreller
What you're still not understanding is.... this is college football. The "we can't look over any team" shite y'all keep trying to push is not just an SEC thing. 
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:09 pm to TexasOnTop
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So i should worry because even though they have shown no signs of improving, they did it in the past so they can do it again. Should i also be worried about Nebraska, Notre Dame and USC winning the National championship in the next 10 years?
Until this year, same could be said about Texas, am I right?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:09 pm to Boomer Sooner 1890
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Hate to burst your bubble there champ, but UT has lost at least one of their last three the last 8 years and none were to shitty SEC teams. They've lost to TCUx2, KUx2, BUx2, ISUx2, TTx2, WVUx2. I guess those 5 game gauntlets in the Big 12 leading up to the last 3 games really took a toll. Or, maybe, just maybe, it's pretty much the same in every CFB conference.
No you lost to basketball schools
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:09 pm to VYForever
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But also why can't anyone answer why A&M and Mizzou went from the Big12 to the SEC and in the first few years had MORE success than they did in the Big12?
ATM won the Big 12 in their 3rd year in the conference in 1998. In 1980 they were a rent a win team for UGA. Missouri was LOUSY when the Big 12 started....horribly bad. A pretty good example of how the Big 12 is chock bock full of lousy teams every year. Neither has sniffed a SEC Championship. ATM won a Big 12 championship.
ATM, Baylor, TCU and K State have all been rent a wins for SEC teams in the modern era. They have been paid to lose to a SEC team. Thats the legacy of Big 12 football....rent a win teams and very few nattys.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:11 pm to Uhtred
quote:You don't understand the level of "entitlement" that Texas fans have. You will soon enough. They make LSU and Alabama fans look like amateurs
I’m truly shocked that these Texas and OU fans are claiming that the SEC will be no more difficult than their Big 12 schedules
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:12 pm to Boomer Sooner 1890
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Not sure how much CFB you follow, but last year Texas was 8-5 and OU was 6-7.
I follow plenty and pay attention to all conferences. Texas has sucked until this year losing to a terrible KU team at home a few years ago
OU gave up almost 50 to my tigers in the playoff oof. This statement really makes me question how much football you follow though...
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I'd conclude their records would be roughly the same in the Big 12.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:13 pm to cyarrr
Apples to oranges. Sark has improved since hes gotten there. 5 wins, to 8 wins now to 12.
Florida is still a hot mess.
Tenn is wildly over rated
Auburn is the only one that is justifiably an argument. I believe they will be good in the next few years. But that doesn't mean someone else wont fall off (Alabama when Saban retires)
Florida is still a hot mess.
Tenn is wildly over rated
Auburn is the only one that is justifiably an argument. I believe they will be good in the next few years. But that doesn't mean someone else wont fall off (Alabama when Saban retires)
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:15 pm to TexasOnTop
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What you're still not understanding is.... this is college football. The "we can't look over any team" shite y'all keep trying to push is not just an SEC thing.
Your right, it goes for all conferences. No one would know better than Texas....'cause they average about 3 losses a year in the shitty arse no national title winning getting paid to lose to SEC teams big 12...they obviously have looking past lesser teams down to an art form. It is, however, slightly more important to not overlook teams in the SEC 'cause those 3 losses will turn into 5 right damned quick....
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:16 pm to TexasOnTop
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Should i also be worried about Nebraska, Notre Dame and USC winning the National championship in the next 10 years?
Seeing as they combine for as many national championships as Florida in the past 20 years. . . No
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:19 pm to TexasOnTop
19 of 27 years the BIG 12 champion had 2 or more losses. Its happened 3 times in the SEC in that time period. But y'all do y'all and time will tell...maybe losing 2-3 games a season will work out for you in the SEC....it sure as frick hasn't in the Big 12
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:20 pm to AwgustaDawg
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cause they average about 3 losses a year in the shitty arse no national title winning getting paid to lose to SEC teams big 12
Actually the Big 12 got paid to beat SEC teams this year (2-1 in favor of the Big 12)
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Your right, it goes for all conferences
That is what I'm saying, it's college football, anyone can win any game.
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It is, however, slightly more important to not overlook teams in the SEC 'cause those 3 losses will turn into 5 right damned quick....
Again you just described college football...
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:21 pm to Boomer Sooner 1890
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Hate to burst your bubble there champ, but UT has lost at least one of their last three the last 8 years and none were to shitty SEC teams.
Maybe not, but they were blown out by Arkansas 21-40 in 2021.
Not to mention getting blown by Arkansas 7-31 in the 2014
Texas Bowl because that was 9 years ago and not 8 as you said.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:23 pm to AwgustaDawg
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19 of 27 years the BIG 12 champion had 2 or more losses. Its happened 3 times in the SEC in that time period. But y'all do y'all and time will tell...maybe losing 2-3 games a season will work out for you in the SEC
I don't think this stat is really helping your argument lol
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:28 pm to AwgustaDawg
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19 of 27 years the BIG 12 champion had 2 or more losses. Its happened 3 times in the SEC in that time period.
So, what you're saying is, it's harder to make it through the Big 12 with 0-2 losses than it is in the SEC. Great point, sir.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:33 pm to dkreller
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No you lost to basketball schools
Okay, so TCU, Kansas, Baylor, Iowa St, Texas Tech, and West Virginia are basketball schools. How do you classify the 3 SEC schools that you say Texas could drop a game to next year because of the SEC Grind:
Kentucky, State, and Vandy
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