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re: The SEC gauntlet schedule mythos

Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Lose= SEC didn't want to be there


Same thing I heard in the 50's when UK broke the Sooners 3 year run!

Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:43 pm to
Big talk for a team that had been a middling Big 12 program for many years. You’ll find fewer team like KU and Iowa State in the SEC.
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Oh but we’re dickriding Bama because we say they’re a vastly improved team since game 1?
No you're dickriding an entire league by essentially trying to claim Vanderbilt, Arkansas, South carolina or several of the other bowl-ineligible teams are somehow some new, incredible challenge for those coming from other conferences because the SEC is supposed to have some magical potion that the rest of the country doesn't have
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:45 pm to
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You’ll find fewer team like KU and Iowa State in the SEC.
KU spent more weeks ranked this year than half of the SEC, including the aggies.

Texas beat Iowa State by the same margin they beat Alabama...
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:46 pm to
These thin-skinned bitches are overlooking the point of EVERYONE’S response in this thread. We’re not trashing Texas or Oklahoma football. They will soon find out that overlooking a team like State or Auburn because you have Bama, LSU, and Florida in the following weeks will frick your season and put it in a downward spiral.

Can’t just say oh shite we lost our big game. We’ll make up for it with the rest of the schedule and make a NY6 bowl game.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:48 pm to
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Baylor is 1-1 in those games, one of those wins coming AGAINST Ole Miss?

You're not very good at this, are you? Google is totally free btw




What are you...24 years old? You're a fricking kid who's been watching college football for five years.

Florida has two national championships in the BCS era. How many does Baylor...or any other Big 12 team not named Texas or Oklahoma have?

LSU has 3. Same question.

Auburn has one and played for another. Same question.

Tennessee has one. Same question.

Far more programs in the SEC have the ability to rise to dominance and have actually demonstrated that ability. If you can't grasp that very simple fact, you just don't do college football very well.
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:49 pm to
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They will soon find out that overlooking a team like State or Auburn because you have Bama, LSU, and Florida in the following weeks will frick your season and put it in a downward spiral.
And we're responding that Iowa State, Kansas State, and other similar schools are no different in terms of "you can't overlook them".

It's not our fault that y'all simply refuse to believe this happens outside of the SEC and in leagues across the entire college football landscape
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:50 pm to
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Iowa State, Kansas State, and other similar schools

Basketball season is another topic.
Posted by TexasOnTop
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:51 pm to
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2 terrible losses cancel out the quality win.



Oh you are on the ranking committee?
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Florida has two national championships in the BCS era. How many does Baylor...or any other Big 12 team not named Texas or Oklahoma have?

LSU has 3. Same question.
So because Florida won a national title with Urban Meyer in 2008, they're some force to be reckoned with in 2024? Man, good thing nobody told that to perennial power Oregon State last year or the other 13 teams that have beaten them since the 2022 season started
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Auburn has one and played for another. Same question.

Tennessee has one. Same question.

Far more programs in the SEC have the ability to rise to dominance and have actually demonstrated that ability. If you can't grasp that very simple fact, you just don't do college football very well.
Did TCU not play for a national title literally last year? How did that work out for them this year? What about in 2021? Believe it or not, many teams have the ability to rise to dominance and winning pedigree.

This "but they did this almost 20 years ago!!!!" data point isn't near as relevant as you think it is.
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Basketball season is another topic.
Lol exactly. You see that I have a point, but since the sky isn't blue in your world, you just refute it with no backup
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27792 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:54 pm to
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And we're responding that Iowa State, Kansas State, and other similar schools are no different in terms of "you can't overlook them".



How many national championships have "Iowa State, Kansas State, and similar schools" won during the BCS-CFP era?

There have been six won by four schools not named Alabama or Georgia.

Again, you simply don't do college football very well. You seem to think that the sport started five years ago and that none of those programs who have been dominant still have the resources to do it again.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:57 pm to
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Iowa State


Great fans, but easily beaten in football

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Kansas State


Snyder is not on the sidelines anymore. KSU before and after Snyder, easily beaten.

Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:57 pm to
Any coach that has been able to get a few years under their belt at Florida has made them a force to reckon with. It may not have equated to SECCs or NCs but always made them a pain in the arse game….especially in the Swamp.

Muschamp had some of the best defenses and Merlins had a complete team that choked when it all mattered.
Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:58 pm to
Look at all the 1 loss and 2 loss SEC teams. Then look at who they lost to. Ask UGA if south Carolina was a problem in 2019
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27792 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:00 pm to
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So because Florida won a national title with Urban Meyer in 2008, they're some force to be reckoned with in 2024? Man, good thing nobody told that to perennial power Oregon State last year or the other 13 teams that have beaten them since the 2022 season started


See, you just insist on continuing to demonstrate your cluelessness. It's not whether or not Florida can be a power in 2024. It's whether or not over the next 10 years you'll have to contend with the possibility that they can return to an elite status that TCU can only dream of. By the way...Meyer won TWO. And Spurrier won before him. Why? Because as an institution, Florida is committed to that level of excellence.


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Did TCU not play for a national title literally last year? How did that work out for them this year?


You make my point for me. The Floridas, Tennessees, LSUs, and Auburns don't just have a one hit wonder flash in the pan. They have demonstrated the ability to maintain. No school in the Big 12 outside of Texas and Oklahoma has.

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Believe it or not, many teams have the ability to rise to dominance and winning pedigree.





Six SEC teams have. Tell me one Big 12 program...just one...that has accomplished what Florida, LSU, Auburn, and Tennessee have.

No, on second thought...give me four to match Florida, LSU, Tennessee, and Auburn.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5291 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:00 pm to
I've been told that Texas's schedule is super easy next year.

Then the next day I get told that Texas is going to get killed in the SEC.

I think y'all just need to make up your mind.

If Texas goes 12-0,11-1, or 10-2 in the regular season all this board is gonna say is "you had an easy schedule"
If Texas finished 9-3 or lower all of you will say "See we told you so, the SEC just means more"
Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
422 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:03 pm to
The magical potion is better coaches and players across the board. Top to bottom. It’s easy to beat up a bunch of 1-3 stars all season. You’re about to join a conference that’s primarily 3-5 stars
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:04 pm to
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I've been told that Texas's schedule is super easy next year.

Then the next day I get told that Texas is going to get killed in the SEC.


Both can be true.

Of the six current SEC teams in the top 25, Texas only gets one next year.

Oklahoma has a bitch of a schedule. They get five.

One year, Texas will get the schedule Oklahoma has next year.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32303 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:07 pm to
Just looked at the schedule.

Only reason anyone is saying it’s easy is because you’re catching Kentucky and Vandy.

Good luck not losing 1 of the last 3 games after going through that 5 game stretch of Georgia, Arkansas, A&M, OU, and Florida.

Arkansas could get overlooked and Florida could also be a loss.
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