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re: The Ringer: It's time to give Mark Ingram his due as one of the best RBs in the NFL

Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:18 am to
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:18 am to
Should he thank Brees, and other member of the saints any in his hof speech?

This is like giving Emmitt Smith the "one of the RBs in history" crown when he played on the early 90s cowboys. Not saying ingram isnt a good back or has a support team like smith had, but he's no Barry Sanders.

Splitting time with others like kamara only helps ingram to stay fresh.
Posted by Warfarer
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:21 am to
It is no longer a running back's league unless you are truly an elite runner that can take over a game and there are very few of those left.

His stats should tell you that running back, in general, aren't very effective in the NFL anymore. Through 11 weeks, he has 800 yards and is fourth in the league. That is 80 yards a game but his ypc is good hovering around 5. In fact, no one is over 100 ypg on the ground this year while there are two receivers over 100.
Posted by warcry
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:27 am to
Ingram is having a hell of a year. Glad he is on my team.

Who Dat!?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:29 am to
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You forgot to post his stats as BLM Apologist. How many times has he kneeled to promote a lie?

#Coward


The frick kind of kooky shite is this?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:32 am to
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Should he thank Brees, and other member of the saints any in his hof speech?

This is like giving Emmitt Smith the "one of the RBs in history" crown when he played on the early 90s cowboys. Not saying ingram isnt a good back or has a support team like smith had, but he's no Barry Sanders.


Where did anyone in this thread claim that Ingram is a hof back, or is in Barry Sanders's league?
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:35 am to
He’s gonna be the only franchise yardage leading bust in NFL history
Posted by crimson jake
Germany
Member since Oct 2012
1004 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:36 am to
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He is a great guy as well.

A lot of people talk about how athletes get paid in college.

This kid had to fly to Michigan to visit his (I am pretty sure) mother. The cheapest ticket he could afford was out of Birmingham. So he traveled to the city with a former student of mine and slept on the couch -- he could not afford the hotel. Anyone who knows Birmingham knows that the Woodlawn area at that time was not the life of luxury.

I am an AU fan through and through but I like this UA kid, but I trust my former student and he and his mom said you would never meet a more humble and sincere young man.

I hope he has many years of success



You is my favorite Barn poster. Can we has the sexuals now?
This post was edited on 11/24/17 at 11:37 am
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:37 am to
A couple of SEC running backs wrecking shite for the Saints
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16165 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:40 am to
It’s easy when you have an o-line making holes big enough for Trent Richardson’s fat arse to run through em.
This post was edited on 11/24/17 at 11:41 am
Posted by mls4bama
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:40 am to
Not great but very good!!
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:42 am to
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Trent Richardson’s fat arse


Trent Richardson is not fat, sir, he’s just blind.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16165 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:46 am to
Oh yea was thinking of lacy, another bama bust
Posted by crimson jake
Germany
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:46 am to
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Trent Richardson is not fat, sir, he’s just blind.


Accuracy in the common language can never be overrated.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:50 am to
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That is 80 yards a game but his ypc is good hovering around 5. I
Barry Sanders career ypa, 5.0. emmit Smith career ypa 4.2. Jim brown career ypa 5.2. Walter Payton career ypa 4.4. ok Simpson career ypa 4.7. Gale Sayers career ypa 5.0. LaDainian Tomlinson career ypa 4.3. Erik Dickerson career ypa 4.4. Earl Campbell career ypa 4.3. Tony dorsett career ypa 4.3. Marshall faulk career ypa 4.3. Curtis Martin career ypa 4.0. adrian Peterson career ypa 4.8. bo Jackson career ypa 5.4. etc, etc,etc...mark Ingram career ypa 4.6 and getting better each year. Hard to make the HOF though when you play your whole career for a coach that will throw it 50 times in a hurricane more often than not
This post was edited on 11/24/17 at 11:52 am
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 12:03 pm to
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The frick kind of kooky shite is this?


Uh-oh... does it offend you that an Alabama alumnus calls out a former Bama player?

To Hell with MI for promoting a lie. To Hell with you for being too ignorant or cowardly to admit it.
Posted by crimson jake
Germany
Member since Oct 2012
1004 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Uh-oh... does it offend you that an Alabama alumnus calls out a former Bama player?

To Hell with MI for promoting a lie. To Hell with you for being too ignorant or cowardly to admit it.



You're a repellant piece of shite. Did you know that?
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Going back to the start of the 2014 season, the former Heisman Trophy winner has racked up 29 rushing touchdowns (tied for third most league-wide) and 3,582 yards (sixth), yet he’s remained mostly underappreciated by fans and the media at large, who have never consistently counted him among the NFL’s elite. Hell, even his own team has seemed to undervalue him—despite Ingram’s career year in 2016, when he rushed for more than 1,000 yards on 5.1 per carry and scored 10 total touchdowns, the Saints still went out and inexplicably signed another early-down back in Adrian Peterson over the offseason.

Through 11 weeks, Ingram now ranks fourth in the league in rushing yards (806), is tied for first in rushing touchdowns (8), and is fourth in yards per attempt (5.2). He’s first in Football Outsiders DYAR (total value), first in DVOA (value per play), and third in success rate (successful running plays divided by total running plays). He’s third in yards after contact per rush (3.2) per Pro Football Focus, and tied for second in the NFL in 15-plus yard runs (11) with a breakaway percentage of 36.6, fourth best in the NFL. And he’s done all that while sharing time with Kamara and (briefly) Peterson. By pretty much any metric, Ingram’s put himself among the elite this year.

Ingram is a complete player, effective in the passing game (he’s caught 159 passes for 1,082 yards out of the backfield over the past four years) and explosive on the ground. The first thing that stands out about Ingram as a runner is the decisiveness with which he gets downhill. He’s a north-south back—he ranks third in NFL Next Gen Stats’ Efficiency Rate metric (3.33 yards), a stat that reflects the total distance a running back travels per rushing yard gained—and frequently carries the ball up the gut for the Saints, following a lead blocker or a pulling guard to pick up tough yards in the middle of the field.

He does all this at a fraction of the salary of some of the league’s other premier backs. Ingram re-signed with the Saints in March 2015 for a four-year deal worth $16 million, a contract that, at its current value, makes him one of the biggest bargains in the NFL: His $4 million salary in 2017 ties for 18th among all running backs, his $6.1 million guaranteed money at signing is 16th highest, and his $1.525 million average guaranteed money per year ranks 25th.



Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
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You're a repellant piece of shite. Did you know that?


Cool, that means a lot coming from an easily duped anonymous guy like yourself.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 12:49 pm to
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It's about time that bum played like a first round pick. Only took him six years


Six years?

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Going back to the start of the 2014 season, the former Heisman Trophy winner has racked up 29 rushing touchdowns (tied for third most league-wide) and 3,582 yards (sixth),

Three years of up and down and injuries. From 2014 on he’s been among the best in league. Period.

If he played college ball at LSU the perspective of some Saints fans toward him would be entirely different (i.e. accurate insy ad of skewed)
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 12:54 pm to
The last 2.5 years he has been great for the Saints.
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