re: The Most Awesome Thread about CamGate

Absolutely EPIC.

Just can't wait for the hammer to drop.

That iz all...

supyo> hows the concussion doing?

We will look forward to the updates.

Auburn fans should be careful not to be lulled into a sense of false optimism at this point by the relative lack of news for the next few days or weeks. Things are perhaps at their most dangerous point for Auburn, since it is either make or break time in the investigation/indictment process.

Frankly the longer this takes for the powers that be to come out and publicly clear Auburn, the less optimistic I would be. Clearly there is much more than Cam's recruiting involved, and it is likely that Auburn football is something of a sideshow to the FBI's investigation of corruption and fraud on a large scale connected with Lowder and McGregor.

Regardless of the resolution with respect to Cam, the ongoing investigation of Lowder and McGregor will have implications for Auburn, hopefully good ones in the long run, allowing Auburn to get free of Lowder and McGregor and their cronies.

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I just thought it might be a good times to talk about the indictment process.

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where you taping your nose whilst typing this?

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If Cam is found ineligible after the SECCG but before the BCSCG what happens?

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I believe there are several ways the NCAA and BCS can enforce in this scenario, depending on the severity and how complicit Cam/Cecil/Aub coach(es) were in obtaining/funneling pay-to-play cash.

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Problem for Auburn is the feds will usually sit on indictments for awhile.

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Not necessarily. Feds often indict first and cut deals later. They can always issue a superceding indictment if new information is found. With some of these crimes, you have statute of limitations issues, so you can't sit on the indictment forever.

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Problem for Auburn is the feds will usually sit on indictments for awhile.

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doesnt matter really

The NCAA can do what they want if they get enough info.

I found a link to blueTuna's thread on the Texas Tech scout board and have ready all 36 pages of it and all 74 pages of this one in the last 24 hours. I think my eyes are going to fall out of my head.

I'll give y'all a Big12/Texas Tech perspective (at least mine anyway) on what all this could mean.

As much as I would hate to see a whole University go down the crapper, if AU lost accreditation and was booted from the SEC and the SEC poach A&M from the B12 it would be the death of the B12. Tech and Ok. State people would be ecstatic. A&M has a giant boner for the SEC and they don't even bother trying to hide it. Plus they'd be another doormat for everyone in the SEC to beat up on.

The thing that scares me is the potential for Tuberville's involvement. From blueTuna's post it appears Tuberville kept his nose clean. But if not it would be another huge controversy at Tech about what to do about him. The last thing we need is more controversy to divide the fanbase, there's been enough of that over the last year.

Those are my two cents, and I want a damn certificate!

I wonder how long the calm before the storm will last? Living in tornado alley I have seen it many times and this case looks to be there as of today. Somebody please pass the popcorn!!!

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Unwelcomed Info Re: Cam Situation
This won't be popular information, but it is still worth sharing. I spoke this morning to a friend who formerly worked for the NCAA prosecuting rule violation cases and is now the NCAA Compliance Director at a major university. He told me that in his opinion, it is very unlikely that Cam will be ruled ineligible if the only evidence uncovered is that his father solicited money for Cam's signature. People keep referring to the comments of the NCAA spokesperson last week, but if you look at her quote, while she does say it would be a violation, she never says such a violation would make the player ineligible. He believes that this will likely lead to a bright line rule to prevent this type of thing in the future, but doesn't think Cam will be adversely affected (assuming no more evidence is uncovered).

Again, I know this is not a popular statement, but I thought everyone should know that with what is out there to the public, Cam being declared ineligible is far from a slam dunk. The person who gave me this opinion knows far more about the NCAA rules and how the NCAA works than anyone on this board, or those giving opinions in the media. There are several people on here who know where this info comes from (Tim Watts is one of them), so you can be confident that I'm not just making stuff up.

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