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re: The media and casual fans narrative around the 3-3-5 defense?

Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:10 pm to
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Mi was using a lot of zone blocking concepts from what I saw and remember but I have only watched the game once and I could be wrong here. I seriously doubt UGA will do this as it would likely be retarded.



Zone blocking is much easier against the aggressive 3-3 stack. If you run power or counter, you don't know who will be in your gap. Zone is just better suited to move as a unit and clean up everything on the track.

Expect a lot of RPO if TCU is focused on firing 5+ at the line to stuff the run.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:11 pm to
You’re likely correct. I definitely respect your knowledge in this area over mine.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10916 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:14 pm to
You didn't make any points. You babbled about a TE and a couple of 1st rounders and more play freedom and dismissed michigan's loss as them doing retard shite. Apparently TCU had nothing to do with it

If you know what you're talking about, what does your TE have to do with TCU running a tite front?
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 6:17 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:19 pm to
1) Michigan did lose to TCU because they continued to shoot themselves in the foot. Or doing “retarded shite” as I originally put it. This isn’t an opinion it’s an objective fact. TCU did not win the game MI absolutely lost the game.

2) Are you actually implying the talent and versatility of Bowers Washington and Jones, all three future NFL 1st rounders, won’t impact the type of fronts and ability to play downhill TCU runs/has?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10916 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:29 pm to
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1) Michigan did lose to TCU because they continued to shoot themselves in the foot. Or doing “retarded shite” as I originally put it. This isn’t an opinion it’s an objective fact. TCU did not win the game MI absolutely lost the game.


M'kay....

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2) Are you actually implying the talent and versatility of Bowers Washington and Jones, all three future NFL 1st rounders, won’t impact the type of fronts and ability to play downhill TCU runs/has?


I'm sure they'll have to account for all those 'garnteed fyooture first rounders'. I'm also sure they'll do what they've had success with all season long.

This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 6:30 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11143 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:37 pm to
TCU is ranked:
-70th defensively in PPD
-17th in defensive FEI
-38th in defensive YPP
BCF Toys - YPP

So no, I don’t respect their scheme, their talent or their resume to have even made the playoffs and I don’t see any reason to believe they are going to do anything defensively that’s going to bother a healthy UGA offense that just happens to be the #1 FEI unit in the country
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 6:40 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10916 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:41 pm to
Nobody asked if you respected them or not, but there they are in the title game.

Your own link shows Michigan to be the #1 team in the country in yards per play. Who did they just beat again?
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 6:43 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11143 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:55 pm to
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Your own link shows Michigan to be the #1 team in the country in yards per play. Who did they just beat again?

We’re talking about defenses.

TCU won, but gave up 45 points and 525 yards of total offense to a lesser offense without their Heisman candidate RB.
ESPN: UM-TCU

So again the answer is no, I don’t think they are going to pose an issue for the #1 ranked UGA offense.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 6:56 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10916 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:59 pm to
A lesser offense? They're the #1 offense in the nation in YPP.

TCU didn't have their RB1 either.

And Georgia isn't the #1 offense on your own link. Michigan is.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34437 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:05 pm to
Michigan beat themselves.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10916 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:06 pm to
Sure they did.

I'm guessing Georgia beat tOSU though and tOSU didn't beat themselves tho amirite?
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 7:10 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34437 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:09 pm to
Go back and watch the game and then try to come on here and try to say w/a straight face that they didn't beat themselves.

Between the 2 pick-6's, the failed Philly Special , and the fumble on the 1 going in, that's 28 points right there..

Now still wanna try to tell me that they didn't beat themselves?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11143 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:11 pm to
I’m on my phone so you are correct UGA isn’t #1 offensively, but they are still ranked higher than UM in overall offensive FEI (#4 vs #10).
BCF Toys - FEI

And UM put up 45 and 525 yards so I’m still not sure what your point is.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10916 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:11 pm to
No I think TCU's defense had a little to do with the pick 6s. The entire point of a 3-3-5 is to cause confusion with the QB and put guys in passing lanes that wouldn't normally be there.
Posted by Sgt Tuffnuts
Middle Georgia
Member since Jul 2022
2095 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:11 pm to
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I’ve more or less addressed everything you said down thread already.


People are hanging on your every word and responding appropriately.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34437 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:19 pm to
I'll grant you that, but Michigan granted 14 points to TCU by going full retard
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8995 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:26 pm to
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Why is it being made out that TCU runs some kind never before seen perplexing defensive scheme when it’s been around for half a century and is just a variation on a traditional nickel packages that uses a 3rd safety instead of a corner?


This guy is pretty good. He does say it's different from the traditional 3-3-5

Fly over defense
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 7:30 pm
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8995 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:29 pm to
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I'm guessing Georgia beat tOSU though and tOSU didn't beat themselves tho amirite?


Losing the turnover ratio by one and giving up TDs on five of the first 8 drives is not a recipe for success but winning is doable.

How many teams do you know that have three first and goal situations in a game and get a total of three points out of it and also give up two defensive touchdowns and still have a chance to win at the end of the game? That's a blowout 99% of the time.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 7:30 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:30 pm to
I'm not going into his paywall to see what he claims is unique and innovative about this particular brand and scheme of 3-3-5 but if there are legit things to talk about there and the mainstream sports press was going into it I wouldnt fault them at all. They definitely are not and just use 3-3-5 as a buzz word for casuals since they could likely have never heard it before and it raises interest in the game.
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