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re: The Long Slide - Tennessee Volunteers Football

Posted on 8/21/21 at 7:51 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33172 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 7:51 am to
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Kirby likes guys that can recruit and not challenge him.


He likes young, driven, hard working, knowledgeable, and personable guys. That’s a good thing.

If that profile is cheaper, so what? It’s damn sure not a negative as you paint it.

That’s worked a hell of a lot better than the failed vol strategy of hiring washed up, average, old sec men like Willie, jancek, friend, and garner.

When are you going to acknowledge how badly your profile of the proper hire has failed for your own program?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 7:56 am to
I bumped the predict the record thread for you. I know you couldn’t find it to put a straight prediction in for UGA.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33172 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 8:09 am to
More importantly,

When are you going to acknowledge how badly your profile of the proper hire has failed for your own program?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 8:46 am to
quote:

More importantly,

When are you going to acknowledge how badly your profile of the proper hire has failed for your own program?


You mean that hiring experienced coaches with SEC experience and recruiting ties to a region that can coach AND recruit is not a winning concept? That’s the hill you want to die on?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33172 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 8:53 am to
quote:

You mean that hiring experienced coaches with SEC experience and recruiting ties to a region that can coach AND recruit is not a winning concept?


A. The younger guy trying to prove himself through hard work.

Or

B. The older guy whose better days have gone and is in it to coast to retirement.

It’s obvious B. is the better option when we Look at the results comparing uga to Tennessee, and also logically.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 8:59 am to
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A. The younger guy trying to prove himself through hard work by learning on the job

Or

B. The older guy whose
experienced and can coach up talent

At least be honest to yourself.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 9:00 am to
DJ the predict the record thread is still on the 1st page. Don’t be a bitch your whole life.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33172 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 9:25 am to
quote:

experienced and can coach up talent

At least be honest to yourself.



Honesty is derived from analysis of the facts:

quote:

It’s obvious B. is the better option when we Look at the results comparing uga to Tennessee, and also logically.


Your idea is failed in practice. When are you going to acknowledge that?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 9:30 am to
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Your idea is failed in practice.


The only national title in UGAs trophy case after Jimmy Carter was president is a Fulmer cup trophy. You consider that successful?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33172 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 9:36 am to
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The only national title in UGAs trophy case after Jimmy Carter was president is a Fulmer cup trophy. You consider that successful?


Hold up.

Try to get back on track.

This is a recent comparison between Uga and the vols.

Which strategy, kirbys or vols, has been more successful on the field?

Be honest. Derived from facts.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 9:37 am
Posted by Kiner
Member since Aug 2021
183 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:10 am to
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more successful on the field?

1980, dog breath.

Deal with it.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:14 am to
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Hold up. Try to get back on track.


That was a commentary on UGAs and Kirbys approach. UGA has 5 straight top 5 recruiting classes right?

But no QB depth, no Secondary depth, no set starting 5 Oline, no WR depth and we are a week away from the start of his 6th year at UGA? And this is normal at UGA. Do you think that teams that win national titles or recruit at a high level have this problem?

Clemson just put Lawrence in the NFL as the number 1 pick. The back up has similar stats to Daniels (both in limited action) Clemson has a #2 QB with game experience and played 4 QBs last year. UGA has Daniels and a walk-in that have taken a snap. UGA has recruited 5 QBs plus 2 transfers since Kirby arrived. And if Daniels get hurt you have a guy that hasn’t touched the field, a walk-in, and a true freshman backing him up. How is that possible. The Oline in year 5 of top 5 finishes is going to have a center with a club playing guard, a guard playing LT, and TBD playing a couple other spots with no proven depth. How is that possible. WR is going maybe start 2 guys that missed spring with injuries and TBD as a 2nd string group. The secondary is in worse shape.

It’s like Kirby counts it as a victory to get these guys on campus and has no idea what to do with them once they are there. Do you feel the Oline situation and WR situation are compatible with the (bill of goods) Air Raidish system Monken was brought in to run?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23388 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:16 am to
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Unless you’re in your 40s and posting on tRant (which would be hella sad).

Dude, you must not realize that all ages use this place. It goes from 20-80 years old. We‘ve have old timers post amazing stories over the years.

To have seen Hershel Walker lead UGA you would have to be at least 50. The people that lived it are to be treasured not ridiculed. Please show some respect.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:20 am to
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Unless you’re in your 40s and posting on tRant (which would be hella sad)


I would bet the average age on this site is over 40.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33172 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:28 am to
quote:

That was a commentary on UGAs and Kirbys approach.


Things have changed a lot at uga since Pruitt was hired by richt, so they are 2 different discussions.

The only one relevant to 2021 pertains to kirbys uga.

quote:

But no QB depth, no Secondary depth, no set starting 5 Oline, no WR depth


These claims are either flat out wrong, totally out of line with modern football, or silly, hater spins.
Posted by Kiner
Member since Aug 2021
183 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:41 am to
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The only one relevant to 2021 pertains to kirbys uga.

Let us take a guess.

This year is "UGA's year".

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33172 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Let us take a guess.

This year is "UGA's year".


When you are consistently amongst the best, any year can be the year. Just need that big break.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:58 am to
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These claims are either flat out wrong


UGAs QB situation, Daniels QB1, a walk-on and 2 freshman with zero college snaps competing for QB2

UGAs Oline situation a guard that lost the job last year at LT, a C with a broke hand at OG, a guy with no experience at C, an experienced LG playing RG and a veteran RT. No depth and that 5 will change a couple times before week 4.
UGAs WR situation 3starter out 2 of their replacements banged up enough to miss scrimmages(Burton since the spring) and a handful of receptions behind them
UGAs secondary needed 3 transfers this offseason, a projected starter (Transfer from the offseason) out, a CB waiting on a court date, the other CB is a career ST guy, a returning starter and the Star is now a Safety with no experience behind them.

Posted by DawgGoneDaNcer
Member since Jul 2021
754 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:01 am to
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UGAs Oline situation a guard that lost the job last year at LT, a C with a broke hand at OG, a guy with no experience at C, an experienced LG playing RG and a veteran RT. No depth and that 5 will change a couple times before week 4.
UGAs WR situation 3starter out 2 of their replacements banged up enough to miss scrimmages(Burton since the spring) and a handful of receptions behind them
UGAs secondary needed 3 transfers this offseason, a projected starter (Transfer from the offseason) out, a CB waiting on a court date, the other CB is a career ST guy, a returning starter and the Star is now a Safety with no experience behind them


These are a whole lot of words...that don't mean anything
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16341 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:10 am to
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These are a whole lot of words...that don't mean anything


Ga public school system strikes again.
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