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re: The latest from Norman.

Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by SchizoAg
Member since Mar 2016
65 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:00 pm to
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Because they knew that the Southwest Conference couldn't survive while the top teams subsidized Rice, TCU, SMU and Baylor.

Bzzzzzzzzzt.

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Even your vaunted SEC will likely find itself culled, with the Alabamas and LSUs telling the Vanderbilts, Missouris, and Mississippi schools to hump a stump.
So the SEC will be the first athletic conference in college sports history to expel a member? That would be laudably innovative, but somehow I doubt it would be politically tenable.

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All you hangers-on, like aggy, enjoy it while it lasts. The next round of realignment will further separate the producers from the nonproducers.

Producers, you mean like A&M allowing the SEC network to include the state of Texas in its footprint, thus turning the enterprise into a gold mine for the conference? Is that "producing"?

Or would having our own network that got in the way of establishing a conference-wide network, eliminating a vital source of revenue from the smaller programs... would that be more along the lines of what you mean by "producing"?
Posted by Sgt Deds
Member since Mar 2016
330 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:00 pm to
Your right. Either way OU is average for SEC population and has a larger nationwide following than any Of the other SEC schools in its population bracket(aside from Alabama). OU would be ranked 3rd or 4th in total football revenue out of all sec teams. The no population argument doesn't work when there are 5 schools with the same or less population and multiple D1 programs in the state.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 11:01 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33230 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:04 pm to
Sec would accept ou in a heartbeat if it could. The problems for ou has already been mentioned. Right now it's improbable for them to join
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:05 pm to
I think you've missed a few things.

One... Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and West Virginia make more on their Tier 3 TV content than the SEC Network payout for your Tier 3 TV content.

Two... the OU board of regents knows this, which is why they told Boren to shut his dicksucker about dissing the Big 12.

Three... I am not so sure that your SEC Network payouts will grow much more than the $5 million - $6 million you get now.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:07 pm to
I see you've avoided two questions.

How did Texas destroy the Southwest Conference?

Why did Arkansas leave the Southwest Conference?
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:12 pm to
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you mean like A&M allowing the SEC network to include the state of Texas in its footprint, thus turning the enterprise into a gold mine for the conference? Is that "producing"?

More like "prostitution." When you are no longer useful, you'll get ditched.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 11:13 pm
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54258 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:18 pm to
What about Oklahoma State?

I though it was stated OU would never leave them behind?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44058 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:20 pm to
That's not how conference affiliation works, and you know that to be the case.
You've just revealed yourself to be ignorant, disingenuous, and/or a troll.
Having a legit conversation is one thing; spouting your wishful thinking is another.


Utex and OU are the only power players left in that conference.
Sit tight for the next eight years or so, and something will give.
In the meantime, you'll reap what you've sown.
Posted by SchizoAg
Member since Mar 2016
65 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:21 pm to
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How did Texas destroy the Southwest Conference?

Why did Arkansas leave the Southwest Conference?

I googled it for you. Here's a pretty good thread that will clue you in on the Arkansas perspective:
LINK
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:24 pm to
That's the biggest pile of shite link I've seen all day.

Surely you can do better than that.

You have absolutely nothing. You're just spewing BS now.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:28 pm to
????

I believe that the NCAA's days are numbered and that the more powerful schools are going to break away, eventually.

You sound scared shitless that you might not have the skirt of the "SEC" to hide under any longer.

You should be. That's all you have.
Posted by SchizoAg
Member since Mar 2016
65 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:30 pm to
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Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and West Virginia make more on their Tier 3 TV content than the SEC Network payout for your Tier 3 TV content.


Directly at the expense of the smaller, weaker programs in the conference. If LHN didn't exist, the BDF could establish a conference network, and all of the schools would receive a share. Instead, t.u. is selfishly standing in the way of that.

Basically, t.u. doesn't recognize its conference mates as business partners at all. They're just competitors, or insignificant actors to be exploited to maximum advantage.

Never mind the value they bring to the table by allowing the conference to exist at all. t.u. feels no obligation to them other than the absolute minimum they can get away with. Always seeking unfair advantages, never a level playing field. And that, in a nutshell, is why everyone hates you.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 11:38 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37608 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:36 pm to
Poor little troll

LINK


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SEC schools now will pocket $31.2 million per school, a huge increase over their $20.9 million per-school payouts last season. By comparison, the eight full-share members of the Big 12 each received an average of $25.63 million.


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Most of the SEC's stunning 49.3 percent per-school growth in revenue came after the implementation of the SEC Network last summer, which promised to be a game changer in athletic finances as soon as it signed on.



Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:36 pm to
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I believe that the NCAA's days are numbered and that the more powerful schools are going to break away, eventually


you know that's been tried once don't you? called it the college football assosciation. it died because the reason they were going to leave the NCAA was fixed. an association of college members will exist no matter what it's called. maybe the power programs form their own, but there still will be rules and guidance regulations.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:40 pm to
Newsflash: The lesser schools in the Big 12 would NEVER get $25 million payouts for their Tier 1 and 2 TV rights if it weren't for Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia and Kansas.

So how much money is really being left on the table by not having a conference network? Two or three million dollars per school? You act like they are getting facefricked in this.

This is all about Oklahoma's desire to destroy the Longhorn Network. It's not about money.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37608 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:41 pm to
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The Big 12 listed $33.6 million in net assets at the end of the fiscal year, compared to $23.9 million a year earlier. The SEC’s net assets were up to $66.7 million last August.



Poor Big 12

Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:42 pm to
Well, I see that brain-dead aggy texag7 has chimed in.

You are comparing the SEC's Tier 1, 2 and 3 payouts with the Big 12's Tier 1 and 2 payouts while excluding Tier 3 for Big 12.

Surely you're smarter than this, son.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37608 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:43 pm to
The Big 12 is the definition of Tier 3
Posted by SchizoAg
Member since Mar 2016
65 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:49 pm to
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Newsflash: The lesser schools in the Big 12 would NEVER get $25 million payouts for their Tier 1 and 2 TV rights if it weren't for Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia and Kansas.

So how much money is really being left on the table by not having a conference network? Two or three million dollars per school?

A lot more than you think. The only reason the T1/T2 contract is so high currently is because it was negotiated before A&M et al left the conference and kept at the same total payout despite fewer teams and no championship game. I don't think TCU has completely ramped up to a full payout share either. At the next round of negotiations, the gap between the Big 12 and the SEC/B1G is going to get a lot wider. That gap would be significantly narrowed for the smaller programs with a conference network.

The LHN is basically stealing money from the smaller schools in the BDF, to enrich t.u. at their expense.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 11:52 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:53 pm to
You sure don't have much respect for the Big 12.

I get that, your school did very poorly in athletics while a member.

Aggy football records in Big 12:

4-12 vs. TEXAS

4-12 vs. Oklahoma

6-10 vs. Texas Tech

Bitter, bitter bitches.
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