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re: The importance of rooting for Alabama/SEC
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:11 am to Choctaw
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:11 am to Choctaw
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.we jumped a few of those teams because we had one more win
oh so it is because we had "one more win"
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what about OU? what about VT?
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We jumped VT because we crushed them earlier in the year.
while i agree with the reasoning, this had not led to teams jumping others in previous years
show me where this kind of jump EVER happened before
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Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:11 am to danfraz
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so your saying a 8-5 SEC would be ranked higher than Okie and USC teams of 2004? Jeebus
especially when some had them ranked #1 at the beginning of 03, only to go 8-5
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:13 am to AlejandroInHouston
Texas is my 2nd favorite team. Bama ranks on my list of sports teams somewhere between the Mumbai Indians and New Zealand Warriors. So frick bama. Hook 'em!
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:15 am to colorchangintiger
well i hope y'all who are rooting for texas enjoy the big media pimping the big12 as the best conference like they've done the past 2 years
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP is 100% correct. Even if you look at last year, had USC gone 11-1 with everyone with a loss in 2004 or 2005, they would have been ranked #1 because they had built up the benefit of the doubt. You see this clearly 2006. That's not the case anymore because of UF in 06 and subesequent SEC domination in championship games
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:19 am to LSU GrandDad
HOOK EM HORNS!
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:20 am to Choctaw
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The SEC refs didn't give a frick about LSU when Bama committed three face masks and they didn't call them. They didn't give a frick about LSU when they marked the ball back more than a yard from where forward progress ended on our first possession, which would have given us a first down as opposed to 4th down. They didn't give a frick when Peterson intercepted the ball. They didn't give a frick about LSU when the spotted the ball to 4th and inches for Bama instead of 4th and 1 after the penalty as it should have been.
+1
If the Martians landed in Tuscaloosa and started blasting with a death ray, I would set up the defense line in Meridian.
The Gumps lost the benefit of SEC solidarity when they screwed, manipulated and cheated their way through every process from recruiting to scheduling. Where have we been repeatedly screwed in SEC games? Florida, no; Tennessee, no; Georgia, no; Kentucky, no; Mississippi, no; Auburn & Alabama, YES. Where else can the official in the review booth be neutral, but his supervisor standing over his shoulder is a long time Gump supporter.
I would rather be an independent than spend another season in the SEC, although it would take one phone call to get the Big 12 on our doorstep with flowers & candy. Bet on it.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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has this EVER happened before?
no, but this was the one year where they realized their stupid bubble-up method had serious consequences. When they did a direct comparative analysis with each of the 5 teams in front of LSU, LSU won the analysis.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:23 am to AlejandroInHouston
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The importance of rooting for Alabama/SEC
there is none. screw bama...screw saban (just like he did LSU, twice!)...screw the rest of the $EC. the only other program I remotely like is Florida and I have grown to like and respect Urban Myers. I have great, lifetime friends who bleed crimson and white and if bama wins...I am happy for them. I also have great friends who are UT grads and if the Horns win...I am happy for them. Half of my family went to PennSt and if the Nitteny Lions win...I've will have just lost mucho dinero and will have to suffer the nah-nah-na-nah-na of a lifetime. So geaux Tigers...frick everybody else.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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we jump like 6 teams after the final week ONLY because of the respect LSU had based on UF slaughtering OSU in 2006
We jumped 5 and I think it would have more to do something with 2 of the 5 teams losing in the final week, 2 of the 5 teams not winning their conference, us winning, and that 5th team we jumped being a teamed we slaughtered at the beginning of the year, and a little less to do with what UF did the year before.
Week 13 BCS:
1. Missouri (lost to #9 OU for the second time)
2. WVU (lost to #17 Pitt)
3. OSU
4. UGA (didn't win the conference OR even have a chance to play in the champ game)
5. Kansas (didn't win their conf. due to losing to Missouri)
6. Va Tech (we crushed them earlier in the season)
7. LSU (beat #14 Tenn)
As an honest assessment, if USC or OU had been ranked above LSU AND Va Tech going into the final week, they would have been in the champ game instead of LSU. But they both had weaker computer SOS than us.
I believed that the selection committee was going to put the next BCS conference champion on the list in the BCS championship game. That was VA tech. But when the next conference champion on the list was only one more spot below AND had the head-to-head match-up with a blowout, I think you give that conference champion the nod. That was LSU.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:29 am to ForeLSU
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but this was the one year where they realized their stupid bubble-up method had serious consequences.
and it just so happens that their pre-season glam pick, who happened to be from the conference that obliterated the heavy favorite traditional power in the previous title game? yeah...ok
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When they did a direct comparative analysis with each of the 5 teams in front of LSU, LSU won the analysis.
again, it just so happens that this occurs right after the SEC exposed big media, leading to a team from that conference being their "chosen one"?
hell they put LSU at 2 and made LSU the favorites
if your analysis was correct, LSU would have been #1
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:30 am to Guster
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the selection committee
wow
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But when the next conference champion on the list was only one more spot below AND had the head-to-head match-up with a blowout, I think you give that conference champion the nod.
Miami in 2000 agrees
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:32 am to AlejandroInHouston
you are not LSU fan if you pull for bama. why would you want our old coach to do better with our rival, thats like watching your worst enemy screw your ex girlfriend and liking it. people pulling for bama need a reality check and also need to reevaluate their loyalty towards LSU.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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if your analysis was correct, LSU would have been #1
OSU won their conference and only had 1 loss...LSU didn't win that comparison, who was the favorite in the game was irrelevant
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:38 am to ForeLSU
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OSU won their conference and only had 1 loss
but everyone had LSU as the favorite
even bucktards knew LSU would win
after the analysis, where OSU played NOBODY, LSU should have been #1 even with 1 more loss
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LSU didn't win that comparison
the "loss" comparison is THE archaic comparison
you can't say the analysts chose a new method while keeping their archaic method as the first line
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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the "loss" comparison is THE archaic comparison
you can't say the analysts chose a new method while keeping their archaic method as the first line
no, the archaic method is not doing a comparison at all...teams have to bubble-up after they've been knocked down.
you've lost this thread...move on
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:43 am to SlowFlowPro
People are understating how important having the benefit of the doubt is in the BCS system. Look no further than USC in 2006 v USC in 2008. Basically identical scenarios with USC and Florida both with 1 loss, but entirely different outcomes in terms of the pecking order because of what Florida did in the title game against OSU in 06 and USC not getting back to 04/05 level
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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Miami in 2000 agrees
Yeah they do.
BCS standings-wise, FSU was the next conference champion in the list. Miami was the next conference champion after that.
When you look at the head-to-head, the Miami-FSU game was a close game score-wise (regardless that Miami was up by 17 at one point in the 4th quarter).
If Miami had actually blown-out FSU:
1.) They'd be in the championship game and not FSU.
2.) FSU would have dropped far enough in the human rankings that it wouldn't have mattered what the computer rankings and SOS was (which btw FSU had better).
IF LSU beat Va Tech score-wise by the same margin. I think that you would be looking at a Va Tech in the champ game. However, that didn't happen and it was a blow-out.
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 11:47 am
Posted on 12/28/09 at 12:00 pm to AlejandroInHouston
I'm rooting for a C-40 transport plane to drop a 20 ton payload of manure over the stadium just prior to kickoff.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree that '06 UF probably had some effect, but to say it was the ONLY reason we jumped those teams is ridiculous. 3 of the teams didnt even win their conference.
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 12:12 pm
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