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re: The impending death of the HUNH offense...
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I think that's what he said. a&m scored 20 in the first quarter, then got outscored 24-9 the rest of the game
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:33 pm to elit4ce05
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I think that's what he said. a&m scored 20 in the first quarter, then got outscored 24-9 the rest of the game
-After A&M took a 56-7 lead on Auburn, they got outscored 14-7 the rest of the game.
-After A&M took a 31-0 lead on Mississippi State, they got outscored 13-7.
-After A&M took a 47-0 lead on Sam Houston State, they got outscored 28-0.
-After A&M took a 42-0 lead on Missouri, they got outscored 29-17.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:39 pm to tider04
This post is way too long. Cliff notes...nm...stfu
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:48 pm to tider04
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tider04
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:00 pm to tider04
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This is for all you TAMU, AU and OM fans(among others) who think you've found Saban's kryptonite. Offenses are always trying to stay one step ahead of defenses. For every new offense, the defenses always catch up, and then the next new thing comes out. That's why you don't see the wishbone anymore, or even the run and shoot much, heck even the "WildCat" craze is about gone now. It usually takes defenses 3-5 years to catch up and shut something down. Same will happen with all this HUNH stuff.
First off, we did find Saban's kryptonite... better players. Johnny Manziel and Kevin Sumlin say hello. Secondly, your over simplification of the evolution of offenses is ridiculous, but gumps are the worst college football fans ever, so it makes sense that they are dumbfounded.
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Saban is already addressing the issue by going to more simple terminology so calls can be made more quickly, and he is recruiting a different type of front 7 now if you have noticed.
We haven't noticed, nor do we care.
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We are not signing anymore 350 pound nose guards like Mt. Cody anymore.
Cool.
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Even our DE's are getting more athletic and lighter in our recruiting.
Recruiting athletes. Bama is truly the only groundbreaking and forward thinking program in the country. It amazes me how y'all think of this stuff before everyone else.
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I also think you'll almost see two different starting units in the front 7 in coming years.
No you won't.
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We will have a bigger, stronger front 7 for when we play power teams like LSU and UF, and then lighter, faster guys that start and play against TAMU, AU, etc. When we play TAMU, look for our starting nose guard to be Pagan, normally at DE.
If you try that you'll get rocked by our running game. That would be stupid.
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You won't see much of the heavy run stuffers like DePriest and Sunseri either. We will have smaller faster guys out there to contain JFF.
You can try to contain him all you want, but he is a better athlete than anything you have out there. The more talented players win 90% of the time.
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Saban will shut this down, he is working night and day to formulate a plan to destroy the HUNH
Did gumps all just block out 29-24? Do you really have no idea what was going on? A&M was more talented than you. Our receivers were beating your defensive backs, our offensive line was dominating your defensive line, and there was no mystery to what was happening. Swope was beating double coverage, Evans YAC were piling up because he was throwing your DBs off him like rag dolls, and the offensive line was giving plenty of time for Johnny Manziel to make plays and reads, that regardless of speed of play and the amount of substitution time Alabama was given, were going to work.
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I think you'll see the beginning of that this year as teams like TAMU, OM and AU begin to really struggle to put points on the board against Bama.
How many points do you think Alabama gives up to Texas A&M?
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:13 pm to TeLeFaWx
John Bond has a sack full o' cash in the backseat of his Trans Am that says otherwise.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:16 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:I am not about to say that you guys are more talented because I don't think that is close to true, but I will absolutely concede A&M was the better team on that day.
Did gumps all just block out 29-24? Do you really have no idea what was going on? A&M was more talented than you. Our receivers were beating your defensive backs, our offensive line was dominating your defensive line, and there was no mystery to what was happening. Swope was beating double coverage, Evans YAC were piling up because he was throwing your DBs off him like rag dolls, and the offensive line was giving plenty of time for Johnny Manziel to make plays and reads, that regardless of speed of play and the amount of substitution time Alabama was given, were going to work.
The point that a lot of Alabama posters are bringing up is that we were able to slow him done and contain to the point that we were in a position to win the game. You guys came out fired up and punched us in the mouth early, but we almost came back. Almost really doesn't count for much here, but we showed we could contain him. All of those things you are saying may have happened exactly like you were saying, but they were also happening for us too. I think you are exaggerating how dominant A&M was in that game especially when you consider they nearly lost it.
ETA: after rereading what you wrote, I feel I should tailor my response more to your offense since that is primarily what you are talking about. It is worth noting that A&M couldn't put the game away until the penalty that ended the game. If the offense was as unstoppable as you are portraying to be, that would not have been as much of an issue.
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:21 pm to TeLeFaWx
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A&M was more talented than you.
I cant wait to run it up on you frickers this year.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:24 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:Better players? LOL. Wake me up when TAMU wins 3 nattys in 4 years. You guys finished 3rd in the SEC West last year. You beat us because we played LSU the week before and it took us a quarter to stop sleep walking. The last 3 quarters Bama smashed TAMU 24-9 and had we run the ball inside the 5 late in the game instead of going air-raid-retard down there, we win the game straight up. Better players my arse, and you will see what I mean this September in College Station.
First off, we did find Saban's kryptonite... better players. Johnny Manziel and Kevin Sumlin say hello. Secondly, your over simplification of the evolution of offenses is ridiculous, but gumps are the worst college football fans ever, so it makes sense that they are dumbfounded.
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No you won't.
We absolutely will. We will only have 2-3 players in the front 7 that start against TAMU that will start against LSU. And nobody is scared of your run game outside of JFF.
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Did gumps all just block out 29-24? Do you really have no idea what was going on? A&M was more talented than you. Our receivers were beating your defensive backs, our offensive line was dominating your defensive line, and there was no mystery to what was happening. Swope was beating double coverage, Evans YAC were piling up because he was throwing your DBs off him like rag dolls, and the offensive line was giving plenty of time for Johnny Manziel to make plays and reads, that regardless of speed of play and the amount of substitution time Alabama was given, were going to work.
TAMU scored all of 9 points the last 3 quarters once Bama got used to the speed of your offense. NINE.
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How many points do you think Alabama gives up to Texas A&M?
I think TAMU will score between 14-20 points this year. Bama will score 24-34. I'm thinking a 10-14 point win for Bama.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:30 pm to AgroAmerican
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And he will get washed out of the hole like coffee stain.
Future 1st rounder bro. He's about to have a Marcel Darius type year. Bookmark that...and at 285 lbs, he won't get washed out unless you double team him, which will free up our LB's to smash whatever comes out of the backfield.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:31 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
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I am not about to say that you guys are more talented because I don't think that is close to true, but I will absolutely concede A&M was the better team on that day.
Once we beat you in similar fashion this year, will you still think it is simply the system? Or when the best player in college football, being blocked by the best offensive line in football, is scoring touchdowns, is it still all scheme, or does talent have something to do with it?
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The point that a lot of Alabama posters are brining up is that we were able to slow him done and contain to the point that we were in a position to win the game.
And this is why it amazes me y'all act like you watched this game. Careless mistakes let you back in that game. Dumb blown coverage(seriously worst blown coverage I've seen in a while), missed extra points, missed field goals, failed 2 point conversions, lack of holding calls on Barrett Jones, etc. When it mattered... A&M outscored you in the 4th quarter and was taking a knee to end the game.
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You guys came out fired up and punched us in the mouth early, but we almost came back.
Why have you all oversimplified it to this narrative? We didn't do anything to y'all that we were incapable of. What about playing LSU the week before had to do with Johnny on third and goal from the ten fumbling on himself, running out of the pocket, and finding a wide open Swope? Or Swope beating double coverage only to get lit up but still holding on to the ball? Or the best tackle in college football giving Johnny time to run and make plays? Or Johnny stiff arming your inferior players? Or AJ misreading robber coverage, and your receiver getting blasted in the chest giving up an INT? Or any of it? I just don't get this.
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All of those things you are saying may have happened exactly like you were saying, but they were also happening for us too. I think you are exaggerating how dominant A&M was in that game because they nearly lost it.
Y'all were a missed extra point and a missed chip shot field goal from being down 10 points in the 4th quarter, even after your lucky comeback. Gumps, of all people, should know how a bad day for a kicker can make the score appear closer than how it was actually playing out on the field. I've seen 9-6 and 21-0 thrown around on this board enough to know this to be the case.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:32 pm to TeLeFaWx
I bet you dont show your face around here for a month after we beat the frick out of you this year.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:33 pm to tider04
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TAMU scored all of 9 points the last 3 quarters once Bama got used to the speed of your offense. NINE.
9 points in the 4th quarter... how many times did you make the Aggies punt? Do you even know?
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I think TAMU will score between 14-20 points this year. Bama will score 24-34. I'm thinking a 10-14 point win for Bama.
Bookmarked.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:34 pm to TreyAnastasio
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I bet you dont show your face around here for a month after we beat the frick out of you this year.
Why? The better team doesn't always win. Y'all could upset us. Why would I not show up?
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:34 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:35 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Y'all were a missed extra point and a missed chip shot field goal from being down 10 points in the 4th quarter, even after your lucky comeback. Gumps, of all people, should know how a bad day for a kicker can make the score appear closer than how it was actually playing out on the field. I've seen 9-6 and 21-0 thrown around on this board enough to know this to be the case.
Right, because Bama didn't have any mistakes or blown coverages in the game either.
If Bama and TAMU played 10 times last year, Bama wins 7 of them. Maybe 8. We'll restore order in College Station in a few months. Ask LSU fans about how this goes.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:35 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:35 pm to tider04
quote:I am so sick of this BS excuse. A&M played 12 straight weeks without a bye and I don't see them complaining about any "hangovers". Not Nick Saban, nor any single Alabama players will use this "hangover" as an excuse; just stupid fans that can't fathom the idea that some other team could prepare better and execute better than them sometimes.
You beat us because we played LSU the week before
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:37 pm to tider04
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We'll restore order in College Station in a few months. Ask LSU fans about how this goes.
It ends with a predictable slide into the 4th round.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:40 pm to tider04
quote:Really? What a bitch.
Saban is already addressing the issue by crying about it and trying to get the rules changed by fraudulently lauding player safety as an excuse.
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