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re: The Illustrious Alabama Inspired the Heisman Trophy Pose.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:30 pm to Smokey Okie
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:30 pm to Smokey Okie
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Many Alabama fans take college football seriously and afford it due respect and that ultra support is one component of what has made the team a great team for more than a century. Sorry for being great.
Actually, what you guys do, as evidenced by your closing sentence, is coattail a football team you add nothing to but fandom, then assume some desperate, twisted sense of accomplishment for yourselves out of it.
Lol. Facts.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 7:37 pm
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:41 pm to patillac
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coattail a football team you add nothing to but fandom
Where would sports be without fans watching in the stands or on television? It's because of the fandom of college football that the sport became so popular in the first place. So, yeah, we give the program its reason to exist. That's more than nothing.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:43 pm to patillac
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Actually, what you guys do, as evidenced by your closing sentence, is coattail a football team you add nothing too but fandom, then assume some sad twisted sense of accomplishment for yourselves out of it. Lol
Sad.
The support for the Alabama Crimson Tide by her fans rivals the fanaticism of any number of fans from various "soccer" teams all around the world.
Without fan support, both spiritually and financially, a team of any type, no matter the sport, is ultimately destined for failure.
Alabama fans, for many generations, have been an integral part of the Alabama football team's distinction. We, collectively, have provided a rarely matched enthusiasm and adulation for our team and Bama squads for decades and decades have fed off of this energy to sustain it in all circumstances.
The word fan is itself a derivative of fanatic and most Bama fans revel in that description, rather than recoiling from the label.
That is what makes us, and our support, a much different force than lesser team's fans like LSU. You sorry frickers think nothing of your team, really, and don't give a second thought to clearing out Red Stick stadium at halftime if lsu isn't dominating.
The fandom of an LSU fan or fans of many other teams is conditional and has certain terms and conditions. Alabama fans always give our unconditional support in both good times and bad, through storms and blue skies.
We truly and always will have the right to use the term "OUR". Our team, our excellence in football, our Alabama.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:47 pm to Smokey Okie
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The support for the Alabama Crimson Tide by her fans rivals the fanaticism of any number of fans from various "soccer" teams all around the world. Without fan support, both spiritually and financially, a team of any type, no matter the sport, is ultimately destined for failure. Alabama fans, for many generations, have been an integral part of the Alabama football team. We, collectively, have provided a rarely matched enthusiasm and adulation for our team and Bama squads for decades and decades have fed off of this to sustain it in all circumstances. The word fan is itself a derivative of fanatic and most Bama fans revel in that description, rather than recoiling from the label. That is what makes us, and our support, a much different force than lesser teams fans like LSU. You sorry frickers think nothing of your team, really, and don't give a second thought to clearing out Red Stick stadium at halftime if lsu isn't dominating. The fandom of an LSU fan or fans of many other teams is conditional and has certain terms and conditions. Alabama fans always give our unconditional support in both good times and bad, through storms and blue skies. We truly and always will have the right to use the term "OUR". Our team, our excellence in football, our Alabama.
LOL, holy shite. Tell me you’ve done nothing with your life without telling me.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:50 pm to Smokey Okie
I was under the impression it was modeled after someone working out on leg day doing walking lunges.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:50 pm to Smokey Okie
You should stay sheltered on the team board.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:58 pm to patillac
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LOL, holy shite. Tell me you’ve done nothing with your life without telling me.
I'm a dedicated fan of a football team. This is separate and isolated from my personal life and success and failures.
Because you feel no loyalty towards LSU and could likely care less about the team's stature doesn't mean that all fans of all teams feel this way.
It does indicate that LSU fans are fair-weather fans who can't commit to anything with a real dedication. This probably has a lot to do with the poor performance of LSU historically.
The fact that most LSU fans are nasty, sloppy, genetically muddled inbreds that subsist on creek roaches and ran with their tiny dicks between their legs from Canada all the way to Louisiana, on the tip of English bayonets, doesn't help either.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 8:55 pm to Smokey Okie
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Naturally, the sculptor wouldn't want to literally create his statue from an image of an Alabama player; it needed to be for everyone and not just a replica of an Alabama player.
He didn't mind using a NYU player.
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What I am saying is that this sculptor first saw the Bama game program artwork and it gave him his inspiration after being tasked with the job.
He had already sculpted it before your program was ever created.
Also, I'm pretty sure that's actually a Stanford player on the program.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:05 pm to Smokey Okie
Not only is this thorough research, but it is absolutely, 100% objectively, undeniably conclusive. Thanks for your research on this. It is certainly damning evidence as it relates to the copycat tendencies of many of the SEC off-brands. Thanks!
Posted on 7/29/24 at 12:16 am to Smokey Okie
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The fact that most LSU fans are nasty, sloppy, genetically muddled inbreds that subsist on creek roaches and ran with their tiny dicks between their legs from Canada all the way to Louisiana, on the tip of English bayonets, doesn't help either.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:08 am to SidewalkTiger
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He didn't mind using a NYU player.
He was based in the North and NYU was down the block from him. Also, a live model can be manipulated in ways that a replica of cover art can't be, in terms of body positioning, scale, three dimensional representation, etc... that a sculptor needs. He took the NYU player and created a generic sculpture, unrelated to any particular program.
Make no mistake though, the inspiration came from the Alabama player depicted on the Rose Bowl game program which was an instantaneous iconic image.
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Also, I'm pretty sure that's actually a Stanford player on the program.
Here Alabama was playing LSU. Again, note the crimson stockings and coloration of the pants that the LSU players are wearing. These LSU players look just like the cover art depiction on the Alabama/Stanford game program.
Do you have any chronological uniform history information for LSU so we can determine when they switched from crimson to yellow and purple?
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 2:24 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:10 am to BamaRoo
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:11 am to Bama3714
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Not only is this thorough research, but it is absolutely, 100% objectively, undeniably conclusive. Thanks for your research on this. It is certainly damning evidence as it relates to the copycat tendencies of many of the SEC off-brands. Thanks!
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:46 am to Smokey Okie
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He was based in the North and NYU was down the block from him. Also, a live model can be manipulated in ways that a replica of cover art can't be, in terms of body positioning, scale, three dimensional representation, etc... that a sculptor needs. He took the NYU player and created a generic sculpture, unrelated to any particular program.
Make no mistake though, the inspiration came from the Alabama player depicted on the Rose Bowl game program which was an instantaneous iconic image.
You don't seem to understand that the sculpture existed before your game program was ever created.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 12:51 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You don't seem to understand that the sculpture existed before your game program was ever created.
You don't seem to know what you are talking about. As stated before, in this thread, the idea for a new award was originally thought of in 1934 by members of the Downtown Athletic Club.
They didn't know what type of award they wanted, only that it be a football player driving for yardage and not be the traditional type of award that was commonplace at the time.
Inspiration
The final inspection of the cast was made after a dinner at the McAlpin Hotel on November 16, 1935
The task was given to Frank Eliscu, the sculptor, sometime in 1935, and he didn't have anything ready for inspection until, as seen above, November 16th, 1935.
Alabama's game program artwork was created at some point in 1934 and shown to the public on Jan.1st, 1935.
Frank Eliscu found inspiration in Alabama's player depiction seen on the program cover and it fit very nicely with his job given to him to create a trophy of a strong football player gaining yardage, or basically the illustration of a football player.
The Alabama chicken came before the Heisman egg. Sorry it upsets you to know this.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:09 pm to Smokey Okie
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Frank Eliscu found inspiration in Alabama's player depiction seen on the program cover and it fit very nicely with his job given to him to create a trophy of a strong football player gaining yardage, or basically the illustration of a football player.
That's news to Frank.
But Alabama has always been known for making false claims decades after the fact.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:13 pm to Smokey Okie
Unfortunately, all credible sources credit John William Heisman as the trophy’s namesake.
“The Heisman Trophy is named after John William Heisman (1869-1936), the first athletic director of the Downtown Athletic Club of New York City, which established the award in 1935”
And shaped after Ed Smith of NYU.
“The Heisman Trophy is modeled after Ed Smith, a running back for the 1934 New York University football team. Sculptor Frank Eliscu chose Smith as the primary model for the trophy, which was originally called the Downtown Athletic Club Trophy when it was first presented in 1935.”
And since the inbred brigade wants to claim that Alabama basically invented football.
“The modern game of football, also known as association football or soccer, originated in Britain in the 19th century. American football evolved in the United States, originating from the sports of soccer and rugby. The first American football game was played on November 6, 1869, between two college teams, Rutgers and Princeton, using rules based on the rules of soccer at the time.”
I’m sorry that the most historically relevant fact surrounding Alabama football was excluding black athletes until USC whipped their asses up and down the field with two black running backs. Try your best to let these facts sink in and take Tylenol for any headaches.
“The Heisman Trophy is named after John William Heisman (1869-1936), the first athletic director of the Downtown Athletic Club of New York City, which established the award in 1935”
And shaped after Ed Smith of NYU.
“The Heisman Trophy is modeled after Ed Smith, a running back for the 1934 New York University football team. Sculptor Frank Eliscu chose Smith as the primary model for the trophy, which was originally called the Downtown Athletic Club Trophy when it was first presented in 1935.”
And since the inbred brigade wants to claim that Alabama basically invented football.
“The modern game of football, also known as association football or soccer, originated in Britain in the 19th century. American football evolved in the United States, originating from the sports of soccer and rugby. The first American football game was played on November 6, 1869, between two college teams, Rutgers and Princeton, using rules based on the rules of soccer at the time.”
I’m sorry that the most historically relevant fact surrounding Alabama football was excluding black athletes until USC whipped their asses up and down the field with two black running backs. Try your best to let these facts sink in and take Tylenol for any headaches.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:29 pm to Smokey Okie
mf thinks alabama invented the stiffarm
Posted on 7/29/24 at 4:37 pm to jonnyanony
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mf thinks alabama invented the stiffarm
I'll get to that but, I'm going to create another thread for the discussion.
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