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The Illustrious Alabama Inspired the Heisman Trophy Pose.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:03 pm
Alabama's 1935 Rose Bowl game program artwork against Stanford was the inspiration for the Heisman Trophy statue and I will draw a direct line to that conclusion for everyone.
The Heisman Trophy statue was created on an unidentified date in 1935. By this, I mean it was first physically created and molded in 1935 by sculptor Frank Eliscu and modeled after a player at New York University named Ed Smith who played for NYU in 1934.
Heisman Origins
The award was first presented to a player in December of 1935.
Here:
is an image of the trophy.
Here:
is Alabama's January 1st, 1935 game program artwork for its Rose Bowl game against Stanford.
Case closed. The sculptor of the statue was inspired by artwork of an Alabama player and later in the year of 1935, at some point, created the trophy.
Roll Tide!
The Heisman Trophy statue was created on an unidentified date in 1935. By this, I mean it was first physically created and molded in 1935 by sculptor Frank Eliscu and modeled after a player at New York University named Ed Smith who played for NYU in 1934.
Heisman Origins
The award was first presented to a player in December of 1935.
Here:
is an image of the trophy.
Here:
is Alabama's January 1st, 1935 game program artwork for its Rose Bowl game against Stanford.
Case closed. The sculptor of the statue was inspired by artwork of an Alabama player and later in the year of 1935, at some point, created the trophy.
Roll Tide!
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:07 pm to Smokey Okie
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:18 pm to jangalang
You are just upset that a trophy named after an ex-auburn coach, after his death, was inspired by Alabama.
auburn, or anyone or anything associated with them or their former coaches, like the Downtown Athlethic Club, have always been dens of thieves.
Without Alabama, auburn wouldn't have their present or past logos, which were stolen from Alabama.
auburn, or anyone or anything associated with them or their former coaches, like the Downtown Athlethic Club, have always been dens of thieves.
Without Alabama, auburn wouldn't have their present or past logos, which were stolen from Alabama.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:23 pm to Smokey Okie
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Before the now-famous stiff-arm design, the Club Trophy Committee at New York’s Downtown Athletic Club concurred that the traditional cup or bowl seemed too commonplace, lacking in distinction, and in no way emblematic of the athletic talent that was to be honored and immortalized. It was decided that the trophy would be the bronze embodiment of a muscular footballer driving for yardage.
To create this trophy, the DAC commissioned Frank Eliscu, a well-known sculptor and National Academy of Design Prize Winner. He immediately began to work, selecting Ed Smith, a leading player on the 1934 New York University football team, as his primary model. Eliscu prepared a rough clay study that was sanctioned by the DAC Committee, and sent uptown for approval by the head football coach at Fordham University, Jim Crowley, one of the legendary Four Horsemen of Notre Dame. The prototype was set up on a field, and Crowley’s players were asked to assume various positions to illustrate and verify the side step, the forward drive, and a strong-right arm thrust. The artist closely observed these action sequences and modified his clay prototype.
Heisman website
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The Heisman Trophy was created from a stiff-arm pose by former NYU football standout Ed Smith Sr.
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:24 pm to Smokey Okie
Probably a Pooley Hubert pose.
Dude was a beast amongst real men of the day, not the kind we have now.
Don’t let your hatred of all things Bama get you, Google this guy. Tough man.
Dude was a beast amongst real men of the day, not the kind we have now.
Don’t let your hatred of all things Bama get you, Google this guy. Tough man.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:26 pm to Smokey Okie
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Smokey Okie
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:27 pm to jangalang
And it took bama forever to win a heisman
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:29 pm to Smokey Okie
You seem agitated.
Bama yells Roll Tide. Not even a thief would want that.
Bama yells Roll Tide. Not even a thief would want that.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:33 pm to footswitch
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Probably a Pooley Hubert pose.
Dude was a beast amongst real men of the day, not the kind we have now.
Don’t let your hatred of all things Bama get you, Google this guy. Tough man.
Why would I not like Pooley Hubert, one of the all-time greats of Alabama football? What you say doesn't make sense.
As far as the sensical part of your post, Hubert last played for Alabama 10 years before the game program artwork was created, so I'm not sure if it was created in his image or not.
Also, in argument against your theory, Hubert wore the number 10 on his jersey.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:38 pm to SidewalkTiger
Naturally, the sculptor wouldn't want to literally create his statue from an image of an Alabama player; it needed to be for everyone and not just a replica of an Alabama player.
What I am saying is that this sculptor first saw the Bama game program artwork and it gave him his inspiration after being tasked with the job.
Then he used other models to create a generic "football player" sculpture.
What I am saying is that this sculptor first saw the Bama game program artwork and it gave him his inspiration after being tasked with the job.
Then he used other models to create a generic "football player" sculpture.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:39 pm to Smokey Okie
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What I am saying is that this sculptor first saw the Bama game program artwork and it gave him his inspiration after being tasked with the job.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:45 pm to Smokey Okie
You're wrong, BANNED user Owl.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:05 pm to Smokey Okie
We're doing Heisman's Okay so why doesn't Tennessee have one?
Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:10 pm to Smokey Okie
Quality work Smokey Okie. 
Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:26 pm to Smokey Okie
Alabama's January 1st, 1935 game program artwork for its Rose Bowl game against Stanford
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How do you know the pictured player is an Alabama player? Strangely enough, the Stanford Cardinal wore cardinal jerseys.
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How do you know the pictured player is an Alabama player? Strangely enough, the Stanford Cardinal wore cardinal jerseys.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:42 pm to Smokey Okie
This is what happens on Sundays in Alabama.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 6:17 pm to BigScoreboard
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ow do you know the pictured player is an Alabama player? Strangely enough, the Stanford Cardinal wore cardinal jerseys.
Alabama wore crimson stockings and Stanford always wore white pants. Alabama didn't wear white pants until 1945.
It's a game program so, all details don't have to be necessarily accurate. During this time period, uniforms of all teams were drastically changing almost yearly.
Just a couple of years before this, Alabama had crimson and white jerseys, the crimson being stripes down the front. White helmets with red stripes were also used, a change from darker helmets of earlier years.
By 1941, the makeover had fully progressed to this:
and dark grey, to black, to brown helmets, year to year changes in this area, were back in style from a much earlier Alabama helmet color.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 7/28/24 at 6:23 pm to AHM21
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Quality work Smokey Okie.
Thanks, Foothand. A quality, accomplished poster always appreciates a good, well thought out thread.
I spent several months perusing archival material at the Bryant Museum and consulted with the employees there and also spent a lot of time at the Alabama Department of Archives and History.
Everyone agrees that the Heisman pose was inspired by Alabama's game program. It's going to be documented, certified, and placed on the U of A website next month with many more, yet to be revealed, confirming details that will solidify the claim.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 6:42 pm to Yukons Worst
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We're doing Heisman's Okay so why doesn't Tennessee have one?
Because they've never had a player good enough to win one; there was always someone better. That's understandable because it's Tennessee.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:01 pm to patillac
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This is what happens on Sundays in Alabama.
Many Alabama fans take college football seriously and afford it due respect and that ultra support is one component of what has made the team a great team for more than a century.
Sorry for being great.
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