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re: The greatest college football programs of all time ranking

Posted on 8/5/19 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 5:11 pm to
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I do not think I ever did. However show me the post where I said that.

I have always said that Alabama has won NC in the 20's, 30's, 40's, 60's, 70's, 90's, 00's, and 10's, only missing the 50's and 80's.....


So then you'll stop crying about UCF?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 5:11 pm to
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What a team accomplishes should be the criteria, not individual accomplishments. All Americans, Heisman Trophies, NFL draft picks, and first round picks are INDIVIDUAL accomplishments. Take these categories out and recalculate. The highest points awarded should be for a National Championship actually won on the field, then a National Championship awarded by pollsters, THEN a National Championship "claimed" by the school. The fourth highest points awarded should be for a conference championship, then overall winning percentage, then Bowl winning percentage, number of bowls etc. Any "opinion based" crap such as AP poll rankings should be low on the points awarded list.

Nah, you can't just discount Heismans. There's a reason blue bloods display them with their natty trophies.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6647 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Yeah same here. My mom lived in Attalla and my Dad lived in Huntsville where I went to school. So every weekend back to Attalla and much of the summer too. First Chic Fil A I saw was in Huntsville Madison Square mall, we called in the "super mall" at the time. It is no longer there.(neither the mall nor Chic Fil A, of course)



Yeah they tore it down a couple of years ago. I miss Tide Pride on the lower level (the original place, and the place they moved to next to the escalator. I also miss University Place? that was at the top of the escalator.

Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6647 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Nah, you can't just discount Heismans. There's a reason blue bloods display them with their natty trophies.



They also display the other individual awards, so if you count the Heisman you should count those. However I think none of them should count as they are political.

Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 5:16 pm to
The record against the top 20 all-time best programs would be a legitimate add.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6647 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 5:18 pm to
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So then you'll stop crying about UCF?


I answered this post, and somebody got offended and deleted it.

so again

I have no problem with UCF, so then Alabama can count the 29 national titles it was won...

This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 5:58 pm to
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I do not say the business because I respect his privacy (although he has since died, he was in his 80's.) He had a gag order placed on him after he won. So even in civil court, it would have been sealed, but it was known that he was doing it.

Call my bluff? To do that I would have to be bluffing.



You do not seal records when the court makes a decision. You settle out of court to seal any evidence. The Courts would not place a gag order if one party won the case. I believe it becomes public record when the courts make a decision unless there are extenuating circumstances.

I find it hard to believe that the NCAA had that compelling of an argument to get the records sealed:

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This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 6:08 pm
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6647 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:23 pm to
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You do not seal records when the court makes a decision. You settle out of court to seal any evidence. The Courts would not place a gag order if one party won the case. I believe it becomes public record when the courts make a decision unless there are extenuating circumstances.

I find it hard to believe that the NCAA had that compelling of an argument to get the records sealed:


Well, perhaps he settled out of court since the ncaa knew they would lose. All I know is that he was paid a huge amount of money from the ncaa due to what they accused him of, so either way he won. Since you say only a gag order could only be placed if they settled out of court, I guess that is what they did.


"I find it hard to believe that the NCAA had that compelling of an argument to get the records sealed: "

I think you have it backwards, the ncaa had nothing, and since the man I am talking about was already very wealthy, I would imagine it had to have been a large settlement.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 6:39 pm
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33215 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:33 pm to
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1. USC 
2. Alabama 
3. Oklahoma 
4. Ohio State 
5. Notre Dame 
6. Michigan 
7. Texas 
8. Nebraska 
9. Tennessee 
10. Georgia, LSU (tie) 
12. Penn State 
13. Florida, Florida State (tie) 
15. Auburn 


Big 6
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6647 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:42 pm to
Of those, Alabama and Oklahoma have more wins and more national titles.

Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:52 pm to
yeah the real Big 6
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6903 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

Afraid not, tit-brain with a toad's weenie.


I looked it up, mighty Southern California is 2- 6 vs Bama.

My tit-brain seems to think the little west coast teams fall "flat" when measured against anything but real Los Angeles toad weenies.

Vandy would dominate a Pac12 schedule... know that !
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

I looked it up, mighty Southern California is 2- 6 vs Bama.



Man, everybody really knows Bama should be number one on that list. They manipulate it however they can for the USC's in the world for click bait, views, and magazine sales for larger markets. It is what it is.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:16 pm to
I do not think the NCAA works directly against a booster. They inform the University of issues and have them disassociate the booster from the school. At least that was the case at Auburn and I believe Logan Young. Did that guy sue UA also? They also do not go public with anything until after a letter of Allegations are issued. Never seen anything involving Gadsden other than with Gene Jelks.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

I answered this post, and somebody got offended and deleted it.

so again

I have no problem with UCF, so then Alabama can count the 29 national titles it was won...

So no more crying about other programs claiming Houlgate "titles" too then.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:31 pm to
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They also display the other individual awards, so if you count the Heisman you should count those. However I think none of them should count as they are political.

Nah, y'all have Mark Ingram's Heisman front and center with all the natty trophies.
Posted by LSUjhawk
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Jun 2019
245 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:05 am to
Florida State did not play football between 1905-1947. How is that weighed in? Perhaps a move upwards?
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