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re: The future of NCAA football
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:52 am to Adam Banks
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:52 am to Adam Banks
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Not all conferences are equal.
Same with basketball, but their conference champions at least get to settle it on the court
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:52 am to ColoradoAg
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You don't even need 70 players. NFL has an active roster of 53. I think 60 our less helps as wel
Personally I would like to 17 scholarships per class and total of 65 with ability to take a max of 2 grad transfer per year, 6 in a 4 year period though. Grad transfers do not count towards class, just total.
But that's a big drop. I think a drop to 20 per class to start and a lowering of 5 total over next 3 years is more palatable.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:53 am to TideWarrior
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Again as long as you have a coach like Saban and maybe a few others in the league you will not have parody
As long as we have SEC shorts, we'll have parody...
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:53 am to Big4SALTbro
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Yea a 8 tram playoff will devalue the regular season.
It's already devalued. When a team can go undefeated and not even sniff a championship, the regular season doesn't mean much.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:55 am to Big4SALTbro
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If you lower the scholarship numbers you have to remove targeting.
I addressed that. Would be a 15 yard penalty unless it was a true spear, then it's out for that game only.
But no you don't have to do that. Teams don't even lose 1 player per game to it. 1 player shouldn't make the difference in the grand scheme.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:57 am to VADawg
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Same with basketball, but their conference champions at least get to settle it on the court
There is a much larger talent disparity in major college football as compared to college basketball. Do you honestly believe a 9-4 or 8-5 C-USA champion belongs in a playoff with a 13-0 SEC champion?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:58 am to VADawg
March madness is the worst way to determine a champion. Basketball unlike football has a bigger chance for an upset on any given day.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:59 am to Kk74
Extinction
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:59 am to RollTide1987
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Do you honestly believe a 9-4 or 8-5 C-USA champion belongs in a playoff with a 13-0 SEC champion?
Yes. They'll get blown to smithereens, but at least it gets settled on the field. It is not good for the sport if more than half of the teams go into a season knowing they have zero chance to compete for a title.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:00 am to VADawg
What power 5 team has went undefeated and been left out?
The answer is none since the playoffs. It happened one time in the bcs 2004 with auburn.
No one cares if a g-5 undefeated team is left out.
The answer is none since the playoffs. It happened one time in the bcs 2004 with auburn.
No one cares if a g-5 undefeated team is left out.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:00 am to Big4SALTbro
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Yea a 8 tram playoff will devalue the regular season.
Totally disagree, if all P5 Conference champions get automatic qualification into CFP, 5 of the 8 spots, it makes all those conference games matter as the winner earns a spot and the other conference teams want to be that team to derail somebodies season, etc. 3 Wildcards would allow conferences that have deeper leagues to get 2 or 3 extra teams.
Personally, I am for the P5 with respect to Football to break away from the G5 and do their own thing. However, if that does not happen, then a G5 team can get in if they are Conference Champ and if they have for example at least 2 wins vs P5 teams on their resume.
So there are no disincentives for P5 playing G5 teams because if you get upset, you still can win your Conference Championship and earn one of the 5 automatic spots, etc.
To me if you don't expand to 8, within 5 years College football will be a niche sport like the NBA or NHL, etc. If is already heading that way.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:01 am to Big4SALTbro
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No one cares if a g-5 undefeated team is left out.
This is where you're wrong. People in the South don't care about these things, but to keep the national popularity of the game, teams like Cincinnati need to at least be able to compete for a title.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:02 am to Big4SALTbro
quote:Disagree. March Madness is amazing, and a lot more fans are vested from smaller schools. Also, you cannot tell me the CWS and baseball regionals aren't great
March madness is the worst way to determine a champion. Basketball unlike football has a bigger chance for an upset on any given day.
NCAA football has lost what made the sport special with the playoffs. We tried to fix something that wasn't even broken
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:04 am to TideWarrior
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Because the way the NCAA allows coaches to manage their rosters with transfer rules, greyshirt, blueshirt, medical scholarships, or whatever it will never matter the max number allowed.
All that would be gone. It would be 70 max, 20 per class max. Period. Nothing else, nothing more. Max of 2 grad transfers that count against total, 6 in a 4 year period allowed.
Go back to regular signing day in Feb. Having 2 is stupid. Sounded like a good idea but it's turned into that it's just the signing day period. 1 signing day, and all kids enroll in June. No more early enrollment.
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Hasn't LSU had the last few recruiting classes finish the top 5? How did that workout for you this year. How many NCs has UGA won with all the top recruiting classes they have had.
Worked out in a national championships last year. Not gonna be the best every year even bama isn't. Uga just played for one a couple years ago and is consistently in the hunt.
It's not about the lsu and uga of the world. We benifit from the system as much as bama. It's about the ole miss, the Arkansas, the MSU, South Carolinas of the world.
It's about the Minnesota, the Indiana, the Iowa state, the Arizona schools, the Georgia techs, the sun belts etc.
That's what you don't get. LSU benefits just as much as bama, we are the only school besides bama with more than 2 championships since 2000, hell since the Nebraska teams of mid 90s.
Yet here I am advocating for change....why is that? Because the sport is I have loved since a kid is getting strangled by rule changes that I screamed against.
Well there is no going back now so you change the rules to benifit the most schools and make the product as a whole grow.
Stop with the Saban is perfect bullshite. Best ever, sure but he isn't a God and cutting down on the scholarships and spreading talent around more make it less likely he hits every time.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:05 am to ColoradoAg
Sure March madness is fun and exciting for hard core and casual fans but it rarely crowns the best team.
The regionals-super regionals and CWS are different since it’s not a one and done. The series aspect makes it different than March madness.
Basketball is different than football, the talent is more spread out because of limited roster space, plus the sport is different in that an under dog as a much better chance to win vs football.
The regionals-super regionals and CWS are different since it’s not a one and done. The series aspect makes it different than March madness.
Basketball is different than football, the talent is more spread out because of limited roster space, plus the sport is different in that an under dog as a much better chance to win vs football.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:07 am to VADawg
Most of cincy doesn’t even care that the bearcats exist. I would wager most of their fans are like UL fans in Louisiana. They are outnumbered in their own city by TOSU fans.
The G-5 doesn’t bring the same money or eyeballs to the table.
The G-5 doesn’t bring the same money or eyeballs to the table.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:14 am to Big4SALTbro
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Most of cincy doesn’t even care that the bearcats exist. I would wager most of their fans are like UL fans in Louisiana. They are outnumbered in their own city by TOSU fans.
The G-5 doesn’t bring the same money or eyeballs to the table.
No shite they don't bring the same eyeballs. What's already happening, though, is that a lot of fans are checking out when their team is eliminated from playoff contention. For the UCFs of the world, that is before the season begins. I went to a G5 school. What's the point of watching if they can't compete for a title?
Beating your rivals and going to a bowl used to be a good season. Times have changed.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:14 am to Big4SALTbro
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The G-5 doesn’t bring the same money or eyeballs to the table.
And THAT is the problem. My kids went to school in CO, but neither went to CU. One went to CSU, and the other to a smaller school out West in the state. Went to a few CSU games with son, but it just wasn't the same as what I had as an A&M student. Not a surprise the attendance was pretty terrible, with many students just on their phones most of the game
There will always be some kind of discrepancy, but CFB is broken. As someone else said, more than 35% of the 5* players have gone to three teams since the playoffs began. That isn't good for the sport at all.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:17 am to VADawg
The G-5 would be better off with its own bowl that functions as a G-5 title game. Also if we go to 8 or 16 they have no realistic chance of winning.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:18 am to VADawg
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It is not good for the sport if more than half of the teams go into a season knowing they have zero chance to compete for a title.
It's been like this since the beginning of the Poll Era.
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