re: The Democrats cheated in the 2020 election. Donald Trump will win in 2024

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Everything I have posted in this thread has been factual and easily corroborated. Feel free to quote me on literally anything I’ve said in this thread that is wrong - and cite the rulebook or record book to prove it.

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It is bullshite. You are still claiming USC was undefeated because they gave up games instead of having them taken away. You never admitted that they had to agree to the sections of vacating those games in order to prevent the NCAA from coming back and having them forfeited. You never admitted that the NCAA comes out on vacating games on their own and is a product of the school willingly giving up the games. USC did it and so did Ole Miss, Bama refused and the NCAA forfeited those games. You even showed that but ignored the reasoning. So I will ask again, was 2005 USC undefeated?

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3down10

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You are just the typical bammer lemming going over a cliff. Too stupid to come up with your own opinion:

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they had to agree to the sections of vacating those games in order to prevent the NCAA from coming back and having them forfeited

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You are just the typical bammer lemming going over a cliff. Too stupid to come up with your own opinion:

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The funny thing is that like most things you say, lemmings mass suicide off a cliff isn't actually true.

Disney faked the entire thing for some weird reason. They have footage of them jumping off a cliff, but they were actually throwing them off the cliffs.

So I will ask again, was 2005 USC undefeated?

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You are still claiming USC was undefeated

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They were. They finished 11-0.

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You never admitted that they had to agree to the sections of vacating those games in order to prevent the NCAA from coming back and having them forfeited.

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That’s not the way it works, that’s not the way it has ever worked, and it’s not how it will ever work. The NCAA hasn’t levied a forfeiture since 1998, and it’s not because teams are “willingly giving up” games. They vacated Joe Paterno’s wins and Penn State pitched an absolute bitch fit about it - certainly did not “agree” to it. I’ve posted direct quotes about the difference between the two - straight from the committee chair, and you still won’t admit you’re wrong.

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You never admitted that the NCAA comes out on vacating games on their own and is a product of the school willingly giving up the games.

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Every time you’ve posted this, you’ve been wrong. You are still wrong. The NCAA doesn’t choose to vacate instead of forfeit due to a school’s cooperation or lack thereof. If you can post a single piece of legislative documentation from the NCAA corroborating this nonsense, I’ll never post again.

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USC did it and so did Ole Miss

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BOTH of these schools went down kicking and screaming, appealing, etc. Neither “willingly gave up games.”

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Bama refused and the NCAA forfeited those games.

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1993. Hasn’t happened to any team since 1998, because the NCAA decided to stop awarding the losing team a retroactive win.

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So I will ask again, was 2005 USC undefeated?

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According to the NCAA, the 2005 USC Trojans didn’t even field a team in 2005. If they were 1-0, then yes - I’d call them undefeated. Since they didn’t field a team, I will not label them as such.

Tuscaloosa, thanks for your unsung effort and work. Keeping IP occupied here and off the other threads. Much like China in WW2, when they pinned down over a million Japanese troops the US didn't have to deal with

The Cult blocker. You all have multiple post on this site. Marching lock step on any post.

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Tuscaloosa, thanks for your unsung effort and work. Keeping IP occupied here and off the other threads. Much like China in WW2, when they pinned down over a million Japanese troops the US didn't have to deal with

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I am a man of the people, doing the Lord’s work.

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Oh my gosh, you actually believe and accept that and try to use that logic to support your narrative. LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

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Are we talking about official NCAA records, or not? If not, then USC is the undisputed National Champion in 2004. If so, then USC didn’t field a team in 2005, per the NCAA. Which way would you like it?

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It means schools are not concerned with W and Ls when sanctions are handed down.

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Weird. You’ve spent this entire thread telling me teams only forfeit when they don’t willingly vacate wins. Even though teams can not and have never “willingly vacated” a win, because that’s not how it works or has ever worked.

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The Ws are agreed upon by the schools if the know they are guilty and usually are submitted by them as part of the plea bargain.

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Do you have a single solitary link to back this statement up? Dozens of teams have self-imposed penalties. Link me to one vacating their own wins. TIA.

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Have you every heard of a school going after a coach when these vacated wins prevent them from receiving contract incentives? I wonder if USC went after Carroll for that NC bonus?

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USC is still the 2004 National Champion per the Associated Press and Coaches Poll. Why would they go after Carroll’s bonus that he rightfully owned for going undefeated and winning a National Championship?